Why do you keep talking about being a hero? In your apparently limited view of the world, is it really so impossible to believe that situation could occur in public where I was personally threatened and might need to respond with deadly force to save my own life?

This is what always cracks me up about gun control people. You guys spew out statistics about gun violence in America and then turn around in the same breath and tell me how unlikely it is I will ever need to defend myself. Well, if it's so unlikely, why do we need tougher gun laws? Do you see how your argument is fundamentally flawed? Either gun violence in America is pervasive or it isn't. If it is, then shouldn't I be allowed to defend myself from such violence on equal footing?

I wasn't better off saying shit. You apparently don't understand the issue at hand. Having a firearm in your home (to defend your home/family) is totally legal in all 50 states, assuming you are not a convicted felon and are of age to own the gun. It's also not the issue we are discussing in this thread, though to be fair, this thread has gotten way off track many times.

We're talking about concealed carry, which is the lawful ability to carry a concealed firearm wherever you go (with the exceptions I previously noted), provided you have a permit allowing you to do so. My reasons for wanting to do so are twofold. One, I already addressed above (have it in the rare event I need it).

And two, I believe it's my constitutional right. The reason this lawsuit happened is because California banned open carry a few years back. Open carry is the practice of lawfully carrying a gun, openly displayed and NOT loaded in public. But to do that and ALSO put some arbitrary requirement of "good cause" to carry a concealed gun is too restrictive of my 2nd amendment right to "bear arms", or so the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals believes.

Basically Harry, California is trying to have it's cake and eat it it too with respect to the "bearing arms" portion of the 2nd amendment and somebody finally decided to fight that legal battle.

Also, what the fuck do you know and why do I care what some foreigner cares about my run rights in 'Murica? Enjoy your limited freedoms in your shitty country and quit being so jealous.


Last edited by [LoD]Vermithrax; 11/18/14 10:58 PM.