I don't think we disagree at all on this topic Hexen, based on what you just said. I agree wholeheartedly that to effect change, it's going to take a non-violent approach that general public can get behind. In order for major reform to take place, the driving fuel is going to have to be an idea simple enough that the general public can understand and get behind.

That's why it's comically ironic to me that Obs and Rok talk about fear mongering at all. Fear mongering is the major weapon in the arsenal the government uses to overreach. Convince Americans they are in danger so they give up their civil liberties with a smile and thank you.

Look at what Obs just said....He's okay with cops being geared up in military grade gear because "there's some crazy fucks out there".

As for Bundy....meh. He's an ignorant racist peace of shit. Fuck him.

Last edited by [LoD]Vermithrax; 05/16/14 09:09 PM.