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Roksmokar]900 head of cattle, the size of his heard, is worth a little under 1 million. He owed $900,000 in unpaid taxes. His claim is based off the fact he doesn't believe in paying federal taxes. Had he paid his taxes none of this would be happening.



I believe he said that he doesnt believe in paying federal taxes without representation. The feds came and bought or took a strip of land for the turtles and have not done anything with it. He mentions that there are tons of illegals coming through that strip everyday with narcotics, weapons etc. He goes on to say that he has never seen any federal agent patrolling or arresting said illegals. Hence taxation without representation. Which is not legal.

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I am still sifting through all of the pages, but I thought that some of you might find the following article interesting...

72 Tea Party Patriots Killed Resisting G...tion-in-boston/

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No he said he doesn't believe the federal government exists. Someone should tell him to stop carrying around our flag though. Maybe get him a state flag... or a confederate one.


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I believe he said that he doesnt believe in paying federal taxes without representation. The feds came and bought or took a strip of land for the turtles and have not done anything with it. He mentions that there are tons of illegals coming through that strip everyday with narcotics, weapons etc. He goes on to say that he has never seen any federal agent patrolling or arresting said illegals. Hence taxation without representation. Which is not legal.


Do me a favor. Find the person who told you these lies and then punch them in the face for me.



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considering the only news reporter that was actually there reporting on this as it was happening was from fox news all other news sources are using them as the source. This was i want to say about two weeks ago now, that it aired on fox. The reporter was being interviewed on Megan Kellys show, I think she was siding more with the government at the time, she is a lawyer... And it was brought up during that. Also, no one is talking about the cattle, and how they returned just over half of this guys cattle to him, I think 260 out of 400 were returned. They also shot and killed one of his prized bulls that was securely locked in a pen, because they said it posed a danger to them and there horses.... The pen was found securely locked with no signs of escape and the bull shot dead inside. There was also lots of damage to his property by the feds. I think he is suing them for damages to his property.
I'm on the fence on this issue, but I do commend them for standing up for their beliefs whether they are right or wrong, that is sorely needed in America today. Whatever your position is, if you feel like your backed into a corner, you can take it, or fight back, they chose the harder option. bravo to them for that.

And bravo to that reporter, during his interview he was scared as shit for both sides, he served as a mediator, the BLM also threatened him but realized he was airing all of this. The only reason this has any traction and the guy got his cattle back because it was aired nationally, and the government at least temporarily conceded probably to prevent a local or national riot from happening.

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Yea bravo to Fox for giving national attention to a law breaking wellfare grazer who happens to believe that negros were better off picking cotton and the blood moon is a federal conspiracy. Because without people standing up for what they believe, even if they are fucking asshole nut jobs, we would never have hero's like bundy.

Your first and only mistake was watching fox news for news.


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Independent news media was there and reported a lot of the same things.


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actually i was in the gym running and it was on the tv in front of me, but that is all irrelevant. Why were there not any other news stations covering this? were they all liberal cowards or they had more important issues to cover like miley Cyrus? I wouldn't care what station it came on, and neither should you. it is an issue, and the broader theme is that the government, ours and all governments naturally amass more and more power over time. It is the job of the people to put the brakes on that shit. Like I said, I don't necessarily agree with his views or the manner that he used to achieve them, or what ever other garbage you keep spouting, I just said bravo to him for standing up for what he believes in whether right or wrong. Most people don't take a stand, they just do what they are told without questioning it. And none of that excuses the fact that excessive force was most definitely used and did in fact escalate the situation beyond what would have happened if some fucking common sense was used and that applies to both sides.

I'm sure a legal case could be made in his favor for ownership of the land. If he has been openly occupying it for over 7 years ( I think its 7 years, my real estate laws are a little rusty). ask walmart about settling with a homeless guy in a cardboard box. anyone can squat on any piece of land and claim ownership if certain criteria are met. I am not sure if that applies here, but it could.

The government is out of control at every level, I just saw an article about a lady that had her house auctioned unknown to her, because she owed something like $6.50 of backed taxes..... Her husband had just died and was the one that took care of the financials. If you look at the law, they were justified in their actions, but that does not make it the right thing to do.

To touch on your comments Obs, I'm sure that British loyalists in the article I posted earlier thought that our founding fathers were all lunatics as well... I am not trying to compare the two specifically, but there are some similarities. I however don't think Our founding fathers thought the British were controlling the blood moon and they may or may not have been racist. And to touch on racism, I would venture to say that pretty much every human being in the world is racist to one degree or another, whether its against another country, or religion, or university, or state, or color, or view point. Case in point every person that has expressed a conservative or libertarian view point on this thread has been viciously attacked and ridiculed. If that is not a form of racism I don't know what is.

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Racism: hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Has nothing to do with you being a conservative or libertarian. Has everything to do with being White, Asian, black, Native American, Hawaiian, etc.



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You didnt address the fact that bundy is literally fucking insane in every sense of the word. It has nothing to do with our founding fathers or libertarianism. Fox news just molded the story into that narrative and a great number of people bought it hook line and sinker.

Let me put it another way, Wesley Snipes is not similar to our founding fathers. Just because he ignored his federal taxes for years, doesnt make him a patriot, it makes him a fucking idiot... and thats all. Or i suppose if he happened to be white, maybe fox news would call him a tea party american hero, not sure.

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