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These are called time/place/manner restrictions. They are not unusual.


I am quite familiar with the restrictions. I think anyone is that's had any legal training at all. I'm absolutely certain that I don't have to tell you that these restrictions have to narrowly constructed to achieve a compelling government interest. AND The law must be content neutral, not vague, and still allow for protestors to broadcast their message, in some form.

Also, you're the lawyer not me, but aren't these restrictions reserved solely for local governments? I question how federal agents would possess the jurisdiction to come into a state and start arbitrarily enforcing such restrictions on the first amendment without any statutes or local ordinances supporting such action. Am I wrong about this?

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And Vermi wins for first Hitler analogy.

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ZeuZ]drama queens


False. Just people that are bored and work and enjoy debate just for the sake of debate. It's something to do.

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Firaxis]And Vermi wins for first Hitler analogy.


I didn't make a Hitler analogy troll. I specifically said I wasn't comparing out government to Hitler's. I merely used the example of the failed coup to point out that just because someone wins doesn't mean they are right.

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Need some clarification here. Are the well armed LEO's in the video officers of the BLM? If so, WHY IN THE HOLY FUCK DOES THE LAND MANAGEMENT OFFICE HAVE A FUCKING MILITANT FORCE? Isn't this something bureaucrats should call the cops for?

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Totally not making a Hitler comparison to the US but if Hitler were alive and a US citizen, he would vote for the independent.

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Firaxis]Need some clarification here. Are the well armed LEO's in the video officers of the BLM? If so, WHY IN THE HOLY FUCK DOES THE LAND MANAGEMENT OFFICE HAVE A FUCKING MILITANT FORCE? Isn't this something bureaucrats should call the cops for?


Yes, they are. If you go to my first vid I posted at 5:27, you can see the patch on the guys arm. And this is exactly what I was thinking earlier today. They are a bureau under the authority of the Department of the Interior, which does a ton of different shit.




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The BLM are mostly park rangers, but when assholes want to threaten force because the BLM have to enforce the law they have every right to defend themselves with firearms.



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Roksmokar]The BLM are mostly park rangers, but when assholes want to threaten force because the BLM have to enforce the law they have every right to defend themselves with firearms.


Are you referring to this incident? I asked you where you got all that info from that's supposedly about these people so I could read it for myself, but you didn't reply.

When I watch the videos Rok, what I see is BLM being the ones exerting force. The badass redneck in the video I posted is an example. He's yelling at one officer who is asking him to move his vehicle, so the other shithead commands the dog to attack him, for which the dog receives a kick in the face and the man gets tazed, several times. Do you feel that was an appropriate use of force?

If someone yelled at you from 4 feet away on the street in argument and you commanded your dog to attack him, what do you think would happen? Your dog would be put down and you'd likely be brought up on criminal charges as well as be responsible for any medical bills he incurred. Why is it okay for armed police to exert this amount of force against unarmed American citizens? Who's really threatening force here?

Perhaps you were not referring to this incident at all and were instead making a general statement? If that's the case, then I agree with your statement on general principal.




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Obs]I wonder if Gfist is in there.


Government is bad for your health. I wouldn't be caught dead at one of these things. I agree with Vermi, People forget that largely laws are just bullshit put in place to control the masses; put in place by the few in actual power. The rancher has had enough bullshit, i commend him. If the game doesn't play in your favor ever what do you do? This has played out across the world many times over and government is always the loser..

Dude has bigger balls than everyone here. So whatever your position, this dude is actually taking a stance most of us never will.

One day things will change.


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Id also like to note that the officers in the video are fail. DEFEND THE DESERT TURTLES! Escalate the situation for the turtles! Probably gave each other high fives after that whole thing and slept like a baby that night.


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