Originally Posted By: [LoD
Anti]
I'm definitely open for debate on this one, I understand your opinions that you should be entitled to carry around a hidden object that can instantly kill someone because you want to play god. I, however, don't like that idea.


Your first sentence in this paragraph is completely contradictory. You don't sound like someone who is willing to debate. You sound like someone with a very closed mind.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I have no interest in "playing God". I have the utmost respect for human life and I take civic responsibility very seriously. I think of every action I take that effects other people as a stone thrown into a pond. I try to imagine the ripples my actions will have in other peoples' lives. I simply want a CCW so that I can protect myself and my family against criminals. Have you heard of the knockout game? Bad things happen to good people all the time at the hands of others. In the event me or my family become a target, I want to have the means to defend myself against others with weapons.

I am in complete agreement with you that a 2 day class does not prepare people for live situations where people need to keep a cool head. As I recall you're a cop right Anti? How many times a year do you draw your weapon? However many it is, the average civilian with a CCW should draw less than that many in their entire life. Being a cop, I appreciate your perspective because you're the one that sees people at their worst and know what they are capable of.

Maybe an answer would be that people with a CCW should have to have psych evaluations? I wouldn't be adverse to that. The same kind of psych evaluations law enforcement officers have to go through. Another possibility might be a stricter standard than the "reasonable person" standard for deadly force.

I am in agreement that the average shithead should not have a CCW and be toting guns around. However, I think responsible citizens like myself shouldn't be prohibited from carrying just because a few assholes go nuts every once in a while. How many cases have their been where cops shot people under questionable circumstances? Jonathan Ferrell is a recent example. Even cops with proper training are not immune to making mistakes. Does that mean cops should start using rubber bullets?

I think there is a reasonable middle ground here but I don't think prohibiting carrying a gun outside your home is it.

Last edited by [LoD]Vermithrax; 02/20/14 04:46 AM.