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Maybe I misinterpreted what I had read on another site. Here is something with some penal codes.

Here are the rules, with citations to the statutes.

You cannot carry any LOADED firearm in a vehicle in a public place or street in a city, or in public or on a street in an unincorporated area where shooting is prohibited. (Pen C 12031.)

You cannot carry a firearm (loaded or unloaded) which can be concealed on the person concealed in a vehicle. (Pen C 12025.)

A firearm which is carried openly (e.g., laying openly on the passenger seat) or in an unconcealed holster is not concealed. A firearm which is in a locked trunk (Pen C 12026.1) or a locked container (Pen C 12026.2) is also not concealed, but you do not have to have it in a locked container if it is not otherwise concealed. Note that the glove compartment or storage compartment in the passenger area of a car does NOT qualify as a "locked container." A firearm is concealed if any part of it is concealed (e.g., part is tucked between the seats).

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I like Missouri law, carry concealed in your car if you want, doesnt matter. If someone tries to get into your car without your permission, you can treat it like your home and use the castle doctrine law.

Rifle. I bought him the Savage Mark II. Wanted to start with a bolt action rifle for 2 reasons:

1. I hope he enjoys marksmanship and hunting. If he does, he should learn on bolt action.

2. I think bolt action is the best option for him to safely learn the mechanics of a gun.

He's a lefty, so I had to get that shit special ordered.

I just got one of these Rolo. I love it. I'm looking into something for the shotgun. For home defense, I prefer it. If nothing else, the shound of a shotgun chambering a round is pretty fucking loud and intimidating. I haven't been able to find a good option to keep it concealed, secure and easily accessible though.

Roby, my best friend just got an XD subcompact .40 cal on Saturday. His dad sent it to him. He's a big guy with big hands and he said if he hadn't gotten the gun for free, he wouldn't be happy with it. If you have large hands, I suggest going to a store or range and trying out the feel of it. It's a preference thing of course, but he said he'd prefer a larger gun. If you're not going for concealed carry, there's no reason to go subcompact, unless you just like them.

CA Gun laws re open vs concealed carry:

http://www.californiaopencarry.org/faq.html

What is Open Carry?
Open Carry (OC) refers to the act of carrying a firearm in plain sight.

Is Open Carry Legal in California?
Open carry of loaded firearms has been illegal in California since Governor Reagan banned it back in 1968. With the recent passage and signing of AB 144 by Govenor Brown, Open Carry of unloaded handguns is no longer legal in most of California effective Jan 1, 2012. As such, most of this FAQ was obsolete and has been deleted.
Is it true that carrying both a gun and ammo is legally considered loaded?
No. If one carries a firearm with the intent to commit a felony, then it is true. But for the typical law-abiding gun-owner, it is not true. PC 12031 and People v. Clark are all that apply. For more information on the topic, read Defining Loaded in California.

Where can I legally Open Carry?
Loaded Open Carry is legal in your home, temporary residence or campsite (unless otherwise prohibited), place of business, private property, and in areas of unicorporated territiry where shooting is not prohibited, including most areas within National Forest and BLM lands.
With AB 144 becoming law, Unloaded Open Carry of handguns is now illegal except where loaded open carry is legal, and also in public lands (National Forests, BLM, etc.) where firearms are permitted.

Unloaded Open Carry is still legal for long guns (rifles and shotguns) anywhere except the following places:

schools and "school zones" (within 1000 feet of a K-12 school)
California State Parks
"federal facilities" within the National Parks (details)
US Post Offices and other federal buildings
any state or local public building or at any legislative meeting required to be open to the public
the State Capitol, legislative offices, office of the Governor, Governor’s residence, etc.
“sterile areas” (areas where access is controlled by security screening) of airports
areas restricted by local city or county ordinance, often including regional parks

What about rifles and shotguns?
PC 12025, which makes carrying a concealed handgun illegal, does not apply to long guns so they can be carried concealed (in a vehicle, for example) or unconcealed. However all other laws apply (including PC 12031 which makes carrying loaded illegal under most circumstances).
Update: The new Unloaded Open Carry ban (AB 144) does not apply to rilfes and shotguns.

My question isn't answered in this FAQ or in any of the documents on this site.
Go to OpenCarry.org's California Forum and ask. To contact CaliforniaOpenCarry.org's site administrator email admin at california open carry dot org. (CaliforniaOpenCarry.org is not affiliated with OpenCarry.org.)
Legal Disclaimer
The information on this site is not legal advice. This site contains information about the law. The purpose of presenting this information is to help the law abiding gun owner exercise his or her rights, while still remaining within the law. The authors have gone to great lengths to assure that the information is accurate and complete. However, legal information is not same as legal advice, which is the application of law to an individual's specific circumstances. Consult an attorney for legal advice.

Here is a good option, a concealable shotgun.

I have kind of wanted one for a while now but I cant condone spending the money on another pistol, I have two I dont need a third. I already have a shotgun so I dont need one of those, though I am thinking of selling my pump shotgun so I can pick up one of these.

What I think is the most ridiculous part about that NYC law is that you must have an instant background check to buy ammo. I assume the dealers will still charge the 20-30 bucks for the background check making an already expensive box of ammo not even worth shooting for recreational use. I know some politians in CA want to do the same thing.





Can't argue with that. I also feel most savage bolt actions are the best bolt action for the price...hell, I think they are probably better than the price in most cases. I got my start on a beautiful 60s model ruger 10/22. I think it is awesome that you are trying to get him involved in shooting sports/hunting. It seems to be a dying sport. We keep having extended seasons because we have too many damn deer.

Ah the judge...a 410 might not look like much, but I promise you that the .410 00 buckshot packs quite a punch...and of course you can also shoot .45 acp out of it. Another upside is you can convert it to a rifle with a simple kit.

I keep a cheapass weatherby PA-08 behind my door and some buckshot in my desk. I think if someone busted in and they heard that pump action I would turn the corner and just see their ass going right back out.

Haha, mine's a Weatherby too. PA-459 Reaper. This was LoD inspired. Saw the skulls n had to have it.

Never seen the Judge before. Shit's badass.