HAHAHA you're too funny dude.
Let me make sure I understand your tactics here. You're going to disagree with my statement, claim that there are tons of studies that discredit the theory of gateway drugs, send me one link to a list of studies which aren't even on topic, and then tell me to go find the one that supports your contentions?
That's the most retarded fucking thing I've ever heard. If you disagree with what I said and choose to rebut it, then why don't you direct me to the specific articles that support what you say? If you were in a college debate, would you show up with a pile of papers 3 feet tall and tell your opposition, somewhere in here is proof that I'm right. Find it and get back to when you do.
Did you graduate high school? Did you even go to college?
The 2nd sentence of my last post stated to you the reasons why I didn't want to engage in some long drawn out argument with you about this. How's that hearsay?
I have no interest in fully researching the issue. I told you that several posts ago. I really don't give a fuck about it that much. If you want to engage in serious debate with me, then provide me sources that support your contentions that the gateway drug theory is bunk. I will then attempt to find sources that refute your claims. That's how arguments work bro. You were the one who took issue with what I said and claimed it was incorrect. Then prove it?
Your points are blatant misunderstandings of science, how am I suppose to address that? I don't think I am capable. I believe you need a tutor or night classes.
No they aren't actually. Let me dumb it down for you so you can understand it.
A hard science would be like math or chemistry. 2 + 2 ALWAYS equals 4. That can be proven and nobody could ever disprove it. When one hydrogen atom bonds with one chloride atome, it ALWAYS forms HCl, or hydrochloric acid. This can be proven through experimentation and nobody could ever disprove it because the result will always be the same. In hard sciences, there is ALWAYS a right answer. The rest are wrong answers.
Sociology and psychology are soft sciences. Sociologists and psychologists (the scientists of these fields) study human behavior. Human behavior cannot be fully explained through experimentation, observing, etc. 2 + 2 does NOT always equal 4 in these fields so to speak. People behave differently in similar situations for any number of a million reasons. To make it even more confusing, the way someone behaves in a given situation one day may be totally different than how they would behave in the exact same situation 2 days later. This is the mystery of human behavior. In soft sciences, there are no 100% right answers, or possibly many right answers.
I don't know how to address this other than you have a misunderstanding of what science even is. Saying "ANYTHING" cannot be explained with science is a fundamental misunderstanding so great that I can't help you.
Way to read my quote how you want to read it. You are twisting my words. Let me correct you. I said, "...behavior cannot completely be explained with science."
COMPLETELY was the operative word there genius. Science, observation and study can HELP YOU TRY TO UNDERSTAND human behavior. It can never fully explain it though for reasons stated above.
saying that you must dismiss all studies because it is "soft science" is ridiculous.
When did I EVER say this in any of my posts??? I never said we should dismiss any studies because YOU DIDN'T FUCKING PROVIDE ANY REMEMBER?? You told me to go find the studies. I never said anything about dismissing any studies so what the fuck are you talking about?
The point I was making was that regardless of what any study says that supports either side, yours or mine, at the end of the day THEY ARE ONLY THEORIES. There is no LAW of human behavior. You cannot disprove a theory because it's only a theory.
The study of Cannabis Gate Effect is only a soft science if what I say is correct. That it is your social environment that causes the gateway effect. The ONLY way you can be correct is if you completely disregard everything you just said about 'soft science', because the gateway effect in your theory would be entirely Natural Science. Not psychological and not sociological. Really ironic, not sure if you were going for some kind of double reverse troll job, but you failed on a couple levels.
See above genius. This entire argument is based on WHY people choose to try drugs harder than marijuana. The gateway drug THEORY makes asssertions on this topic. It's just a theory.
I'm really done going round and round with you on this Rainman. All you've done to date is link a list slightly relevant articles, throw insults and twist my words. Now I see why you keep throwing out things like MSNBC and CNN, because you act just like a reporter, misquoting people and twisting their words to fit whatever spin you choose to put on something.
Just as I predicted, this got us absolutely nowhere, but it ate up 30 minutes of my time.
So...if you don't have anything of substance to add to the discussion then fuck off?
I'll throw you cross heals in UO any time, but I'm done engaging in a pointless fucking argument with you.
