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It doesn't take being a pothead to be irresponsible, and just because you smoke pot doesn't mean it takes priority to responsibilities.

And.... that's 99 percent of everyone.

off topic but I make my bed about once a month... far less than I even change the sheets. Clean sheets are a pile on the bed until it's sleep time, at which time they take the form of the bed with me in it...


Whhhyyyyy make the bed?

I grew up with my all of my male role models being primarily of a military back round. Now that could mean a whole number of things.. but in general we could all understand that a persons of the military tries/does keep a sort of 'higher' personal standard toward taking care of oneself, ones property, etc.

That being said, making of ones bed is a perfect example for me to use as an example for lazy.. to many making the bed is 'who the fuck cares' but to others its a sign of caring/respect of oneself & ones belongings..

I would be willing to bet a nice chunk of change that just about 99.9% of the stoners on this forum dont make their bed. Now, this could be because these stoners feel making the bed falls into the 'who the fuck cares' catagory of life.. but I would lean to the task of making ones bed & other tasks like it fall under the stoners catagory of 'who the fuck cares' due to a little bit of lack of motivation from the pot. Now I could be completely wrong.. but again I feel that pot limits 99.9% of peoples motivation... even those 'functioning stoners' such as myself.

Smoking dope will kill that *1 out of *20 things to do in a day.. I dont care who the fuck you are it does & I could use the little shit in your life to prove it to you. The real danger in pot is when you start doing the math of across a life time/years of smoking weed everyday how many of these little things you 'missed' & how all of those things 'add up'

TBH I dont give a shit if you make your bed or not.. honostly most of the time I dont as its a time issue in the morning w/ the kids.. Making the bed is just an example of one of the many tasks that could easily be done but 99.9% of the pot heads out there dont do it. I feel this is because 'making the bed' becomes like many of the other 'easy to do' tasks in a stoners life that gets pushed into the 'fuck it' pile just because they are a stoner.

We all know that I live in Los Angeles, California & we have more pot shops than starbucks... srsly we have more pot shops in L.A. than starbucks... just to give you an idea of the numbers out here on many corners there are starbucks parked across the street from another.. & there are still more pot shops

I grow more, smoke more, eat more, shit more, etc. weed than probley anyone on these forums...

I will always argue that weed is as much of a 'gateway drug' as cafine is... to say every major drug addict started on pot is as stupid as saying every major drug addict started on koolaid/soda.

but

I will also always argue that weed is just as harmful as alchohol but for different reasons.. the biggest reason is weed is a silent killer of motivation & that slowly takes away from peoples lives (despite what 'functioning stoners' have to say).

Following the motivation killer, the next biggest heart ache with weed is the issue on DUI. No matter what the substance weed, alchohol, pills, I dont give a shit.. no one should be driving under the influence. EVAR

Now, I think there is a level at which you could still be able to drive 'normally' while stoned just the same as you could drive home after a couple beers in a couple hours.. but I think weed is just like alchohol in the way that many people wont 'feel impared' from the weed. BUT you really are too fuct to drive stupid fucking stoner & your going to fucking kill someone with that 2 ton hunk of metal traveling at 75 mph.

I love weed but if anyone says there aint problems with the stuff is clearly smoking too much of it..

TL:DR

*weed is a silent killer of motivation... especially for those 'functioning pot heads' - weed encourages people to move many of the 'easy to do tasks' to the 'ahh fuck it list'

*dont drink/smoke/pop pills/etc. & drive... ever

Still disagree with this. I didn't bother to put Rain's statements to the test and actually look up any studies to determine if the notorious "THEY" have now determined that the gateway drug theory is "bunk". I just don't care that much.

And also, I would argue that you cannot DISPROVE a theory on psychological and psychosocial mechanisms. Psychology and sociology are not hard sciences. There are no 100% right or wrong answers. We can only make educated guesses.

I get what you're saying Fly, but I think you're comparing apples to oranges. The high you get from sugar or caffeine is nowhere near intensity of the high you get from pot, or any other controlled substance for that matter. If I had to rank illicit drugs in order of intensity of highs (of the ones I've tried, and assuming all are of the potent variety), it'd go like this: pot, coke, E, LSD.

The other aspect of the gateway drug theory that we haven't talked about goes beyond, oh, I tried pot, that was a little "bad", now I'm less afraid to try things that are even more "bad". It's the "chasing the dragon" thing. Wow let's see, I have gotten as high as I can possibly get off pot, I wonder what the high from coke would be like?

Now obviously it's not that black and white and usually involves hanging out with people who do these kinds of drugs and getting into a situation where it's offered to you. But the point is still the same. That's the other side of the gateway drug coin. Once you're bored of the high with one drug, many people try something new out of sheer curiousity.

There are 100 million reasons why when people come to that crossroads where they can accept a harder drug when it's offered to them, some people choose to do it and some do not.

I'm not saying that the gateway drug theory is proven or that it's 100% right. I'm simply saying that I agree with it's 3 main ideas which are:

1. Once you try one illegal drug, your moral barrier has been compromised and you are more likely to try something harder.

2. Most people start with lower level drugs (like pot) that are easier to get, cheaper and less socially frowned upon.

3. Once you experience the high of one drug, you are more likely to want to experiment with others.

Some of us just hire maids for that. Then its moving it to the ahh fuck it Consuela can do it.

One more thing to add...I also didn't say lower level drugs lead you to become addicted to higher level drugs.

For example, in my case, I've done coke a total of 3 times. I hated it every time. I'll never do it again. Speedy highs (uppers) just aren't my thing.

I've probably done E a total of 15 times and LSD probably close to the same. That's over a period of 14 years....

I simply said they are likely to cause you to TRY other drugs.

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K, thats cool but as stated anything can be put in that equation not just weed... making that gateway drug theory bunk.. or if real.. again weed is just as much of a gateway drug as;

(quick list from low - high?)
cafine, nicotine, ADD pills (which turns to meth faster than..), weed (uhh huh), alchohol (we all found ways to get this as young teens.. did the booze make you do the LSD or did you do the LSD? finding an excuse to be a nigger is just nigger btw..) NOS (haha idiots) DXM (robotrippin which is super common for MIDDLESCHOOLERS) Ecstacy (more 10-13 yr olds doing this than weed.. & these kids probley never even tried weed let alone 'good' weed so get facts right.. I we used to call em 'prosti-tots' in the scene where you would litterally see like a 12 yr old wearing like 'NOTHING' but her candy & its like OMGWTF.. I'm sure it was the weed that got that slut started down that path & it totally was not daddy issues or something else like that lol) etc. etc. etc. etc.

Again I will argue all day that weed is not a 'gateway' drug (or that infact the gateway drug theory is completely bunk) or that it is just as much of a 'gateway' as EVERYTHING else.

Weed does have two other very real dangers.. these issues are still;

1) kills motivation (even if to the slightest degree it does in EVERYONE)
2) driving under the influence on weed is just as bad as alchohol & just like alchohol it can be hard to tell when your too fuct to drive..

So yeah I can blow up the gateway drug theory but those two key issues I cannot/wouldnot overlook when looking at weed.

Then you are absolutely a waste of space and time and not fit for conversation with me. This country is run by idiots who fail to do the proper research when all it takes is 15-25 minutes of your time.

You've been demoted to the level of EE. Somebody who makes a claim, but only uses personal experiences instead of independent studies. Example: It's so cold outside, global warming can't be true!

Thanks for giving me the heads up to stay out of your way.

That's 15-25 minutes I could be spending farming bro, sorry. Plus I do research for a living. It's not worth my time and aggravation to do more in my free time to support arguments about pot in an online forum.

And you still didn't speak at all to the fact that you CANNOT DISPROVE A THEORY about the psychology between why people do things.

Your example is global warming. That's a hard science. That can be proved or disproved with scientific data.