[quote=[LoD]Capitulate] you would be surprised at the new college grad hires who possess not the slightest iota of common sense.

No I wouldn't, I'm in school with these people right now. That's why I said it's the new HIGH SCHOOL... college isn't just for the smart people anymore....

And it's ridiculous the amount of debt people will get in for their degrees. I have friends going to Harvard and Yale for their M. Arch, and they're going to come out with 100k in debt.... DUMB! Architects only make around 45k starting.... do the math, that just doesn't make any sense.

Lucky for me, I aced a few tests in high school so my college has been pretty much paid for... I actually turned a profit off undergrad!