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Where has Stretch been for the past two months? He seems to have disappeared ever since his party and political views were tossed in the shitter by the public.  I guess all it takes to pipe down one of those batshit crazy liberals is to vote in their party in order for everyone to see how much worse things can actually get in this country. The ye' olde democrat process of epic failure that takes place every 2-3 main elections. 
Shit happens, blame Bush!
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First off, let me state that I'm neither Republican, nor a Democrat. Issues dictate what side of the fence I'm forced to stand on when my vote counts. Truth is, I'm fairly displeased with both parties. That said, I've got a few questions for you proclaimed right wingers.
Are things getting worse? Job growth hasn't necessarily rebounded, but I don't think anyone with a reasonable understanding of economics could say that things were going to change overnight. Obama took office just over a year ago and I certainly can see that the hemorrhaging has stopped and things are beginning to stabilize.
In general, have taxes gone up under the Obama/Democratic regime? Nope. They most certainly haven't. If your issues preside more with the deficit spending, everyone knows that Obama didn't create that deficit, even if it will increase in order to help stabilize our economy and to address certain glaring issues. Fact is, the prior Democrat in office, Bill Clinton, left office with a substantial budget surplus. Under the ensuing Republican tenure, we accrued a substantial deficit that of course Obama inherited.
Have Democrats accomplished much since gaining office? No, they really haven't. Now there's a plethora of reasons why, but one of the most concrete is the fact that the Republicans have used the filibuster to an unprecedented degree to block even popular legislation. Most of you would think that it takes a simple majority to pass legislation. That isn't true. For instance, 60 votes are needed in the Senate. Not pointing fingers here, the Democrats have done the same in the past such as the Republican judicial nominations under the Bush regime. Change doesn't happen without bipartisanship.
Lets talk about the Tea Party Movement and the so called Obama backlash... I have one simple question, why is it 99% supported by 'whites'? Now I'm going on conjecture here, but lets assume that its nothing less than racial backlash for the fact that Obama is the first black president. Scoff if you will, but seriously, every single major civil rights hurdle that has been overcome in the past has been met with some kind of backlash as a result. The fact that Lyndon B. Johnson passed the first major civil rights bill in the 60's permanently changed the South from being predominantly Democratic to a conservative Republican bastion. I just can't help but feel everytime someone says, ".. more of the same shit from those goddamned liberals.." that what they really want to say is, "..thats what you get with a nigger in the White House."
Faust, you seem to indicate that Obama's approval rating has diminished. If carrying a 51% current approval rating is subpar to Bush's exit of less than 30%, help me with the math here. Like I said before, I'm neither Democrat nor Republican. I think both parties are the epitomy of inefficiency and you can take your pick from either party as to which one will drive this country into ruin. Fact is, however, Democrats are at least trying to propose solutions as opposed to finger pointing. Whether or not I like their solutions, I can at least applaud the effort of the one party trying to get some work done on behalf of the American people, even if they're fucking morons.
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Can't be....
Judas fell off the planet months ago. First confirmed case of actual planet-side slippage, from what I understand.
P.S. - Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.
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Lord of Borg
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I have to kinda agree with judas. I know up herein canada it was conservative vs liberals and I only voted conservative because liberals did nothing for so long and I wanted change, even if it was shitty change. Conservatives came in, lowered GST by 2% (i think at this moment its 2% less) and hell, atleast I saw something happen. No idea if it helped or made everything worse but atleast something happened.
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SherkBORG]I have to kinda agree with judas. I know up herein canada it was conservative vs liberals and I only voted conservative because liberals did nothing for so long and I wanted change, even if it was shitty change. Conservatives came in, lowered GST by 2% (i think at this moment its 2% less) and hell, atleast I saw something happen. No idea if it helped or made everything worse but atleast something happened. rofl They lowered the gst by 2% and added an equivalent amount to the deficit. Now they say they are going to cut programs (think your healthcare) to cover the deficit they created! Yeah great change, can't wait for more. The Liberals paid the deficit down and had us running a surplus for years. Its true that they did nothing I guess, nothing bad.
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The Angry Mythbuster
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Welcome back Judas
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Wow, my lil' buddy post got one of my ol' buddy's to show himself after so long!
Where have you been son?
About your post though... Bush had a 90% approval rating during his first term much higher than Obama has ever managed to sprout up. You are giving Obama a little more credit with his current approval rating. His current "approval rating" has been lingering in the mid-upper 40's for several months now mostly around 46-47. We all know that approval ratings always tank towards the end of a presidency. Hell, Truman one of our very good presidents left office in the 20's...
Please don't even go into the talk of the filibuster though, lol... Democrats are creating the obstacle to get any piece of legislation passed. The democrats have a HUGE majority in both the senate and house(much bigger in the house). Republicans can vote no on any piece of legislation and it wouldn't matter one bit so long as enough democrats vote for it to prevent a filibuster from happening. I have no idea where you come up with this analogy at involving the filibuster.
I am not a fan of the republican spending spee that went on during the Bush years. However, it's NOTHING compared to the Obama 3x Bush deficit record... The highest deficit Bush ever pumped out was around 500 billion. That is hardly anything compared to an almost 1.5 trillion record deficit.
Shit happens, blame Bush!
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Lord of Controversy
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youre retarded! get a friend!
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I already have a friend, you dirtball. Don't you remember how many nights we spent together making Bubba love while you were EV'ing them Lich Lords son?  Stretch is only jealous of Roger, Bob, and me.
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