Rain,

Here is my take on the entire debate.

My original post (regarding the hacked emails) was just an example of where I think science is drifting; into the political arena. It was intended to spark debate more so about the political side or how politics can slant science. The links I presented were just showing that scientists are not infallible, they may skew data to get certain results.

Politics is just a broader form of the sciences. We cannot possibly be professionals in all avenues of society so we try to rationalize them through others findings.

For any of us to try an extrapolate what scientists have been working on their entire lives (Climate Change), or act like they are in the know, is a disservice to science. Not to mention the numerous sciences involved in trying to quantify the data. Unless of course you are a scientist in one of these fields? Our trust lies in the scientific community and their findings. The findings are still theory; some scientists think we are heading into a cooling stage, while others think we are heading into a heating phase. So us posting tidbits of information to support it one way or the other, or inferring that we understand all of it is unrealistic. I have been guilty of this.

We are the only planet (that we know of) that has an eco system. To say we do not contribute to our weather would be a disingenuous assertion. The very gasses we release from consumption by all measurable standards ?pollutes?. To say that earth does not go through a cyclical cooling/warming phase is disingenuous.

You defined science that you do not agree with as pseudoscience, which would end any debate. I did not have to read your article to be enlightened. I will and could post 15 findings supporting my inclination of ?climate change?, except I would not expect you to carve through the boring drivel. Our minds are made up. It will take a smoking gun, to change my mind.

I am not a scientists, nor do I speak scientiese. I have merely come to the conclusion that Climate Change is a fear mongering tool being used by politicians (much like the war on terror) to further a political agenda.

It is horse's-shit that I have to say this, because of assumptions that will arise on my disagreement with imminent manmade climate change. I own an electric mower, downsized to an economical vehicle (hyndai) and by all measures am a steward of the land, a conservationist.

That is all