The conversation is not over Rain. If you are having heating up of other planets at the same time the earth is warming up, that means there is another cause than humans doing it. Do you think the worlds climate has been stable for the last 2 million years? No it has not. Its constantly changing, due to sun cycles, the tilt of our planet and volcanic activity just to name a few. Could humans me a partial cause, sure, I guess they could but Co2 is not as much of a green house gas compared to water vapor.

My point is, we dont know enough about this planet, we have groups of people, including governments who are in it for one thing and one thing only, MONEY. Dont tell me you dont have scientists who will fudge their work to get that next big grant because we both know there are.

The world is constantly changing, heat up and cooling down, that is why we have ice ages and warm spells. We came out of an ice age just 13,000 years ago, who says we are not sit warming up from that ice age? Lets not discount those bigger natural causes before we attempt to tax people over BS that is basically out of our control.

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Once considered incredible, the notion that climate can change rapidly is becoming respectable. In a 2003 report, Robert Gagosian cites "rapidly advancing evidence [from, e.g., tree rings and ice cores] that Earth's climate has shifted abruptly and dramatically in the past." For example, as the world warmed at the end of the last ice age about 13,000 years ago, melting ice sheets appear to have triggered a sudden halt in the Conveyor, throwing the world back into a 1,300 year period of ice-age-like conditions called the "Younger Dryas."

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