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I wasn't arguing WoW is fun or the pvp is bad ass... my point was that even a vid of WoW can make the game look better than it is...

Just like that original DF teaser back at the end of 2008 everyone died in like 2-3 hits to make the game look fast pace..

That vid obi posted doesn't show the 2 hour mount rides or the countless hours of bloodwall footage.. or all the naked zerg rushes or any of the real parts of DF that seem to take up so many hours of its existance for the 5 minutes of "fun".




and that wow video didn't show the 1000's of man hours it takes to be the #1 pvper on the server, so what is your point again Tyrantard?