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[LoD]Simon #320992 06/17/09 05:31 PM
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Darkfall really fucked up by not implementing a Hard cap to begin with. That alone would have created much needed diversity. Them saying there will be a hard cap is stupid and them not implementing it from the beginning is even more stupid.




The reason for this is because the game isn't balanced. It nearly impossible for archers and mages to fight melee point blank because there are no skills to support it.

The game is simply going to go two directions. Magic will get nerfed and then melee will be OP or magic won't get nerfed and AoE elemental will be OP and all fights will come down to who has the most AoE casters.

Even if they impliment a hard cap (with out a complete revamp of skills) those are the only two options for the game.


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Darkfall really fucked up by not implementing a Hard cap to begin with. That alone would have created much needed diversity. Them saying there will be a hard cap is stupid and them not implementing it from the beginning is even more stupid.




The reason for this is because the game isn't balanced. It nearly impossible for archers and mages to fight melee point blank because there are no skills to support it.

The game is simply going to go two directions. Magic will get nerfed and then melee will be OP or magic won't get nerfed and AoE elemental will be OP and all fights will come down to who has the most AoE casters.

Even if they impliment a hard cap (with out a complete revamp of skills) those are the only two options for the game.




Games like this normally go through many different phases like that. That's part of the ride in any MMO. Darkfall is more balanced in this area since right now anybody can take any skill. So if you see something is overpowered, you don't have to reroll, you just start focusing your time in that skill. When the softcap comes it will create new balance\rebalance issues as to how to play your characters. One month everyone might be hally mage, next month everyone might be healer mage. Until they balance shit out or ruin the game in the process. This goes for every MMO created.

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Darkfall really fucked up by not implementing a Hard cap to begin with. That alone would have created much needed diversity. Them saying there will be a hard cap is stupid and them not implementing it from the beginning is even more stupid.




The reason for this is because the game isn't balanced. It nearly impossible for archers and mages to fight melee point blank because there are no skills to support it.

The game is simply going to go two directions. Magic will get nerfed and then melee will be OP or magic won't get nerfed and AoE elemental will be OP and all fights will come down to who has the most AoE casters.

Even if they impliment a hard cap (with out a complete revamp of skills) those are the only two options for the game.




Games like this normally go through many different phases like that. That's part of the ride in any MMO. Darkfall is more balanced in this area since right now anybody can take any skill. So if you see something is overpowered, you don't have to reroll, you just start focusing your time in that skill. When the softcap comes it will create new balance\rebalance issues as to how to play your characters. One month everyone might be hally mage, next month everyone might be healer mage. Until they balance shit out or ruin the game in the process. This goes for every MMO created.




Sigh DF is not balanced at all, thats why they didn't impliment a soft cap because it would have required too much work/effort to balance the damn thing. Most MMOs have class systems, and typically people don't reroll just because one class is seemingly OP. Some might but not any type of majority and it usually gets nerfed.

DF is in a tough place because to impliment a real soft cap thats worth a damn they will have to add some really diverse skills to the game which will give each dicipline some type of advantage / weakness. The answer for it can't be "well you better learn to melee" because that will just mean the skill system is still broke and the game will continue to shit on itself.


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I never played UO..




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Than you don't know what skill based means. Your're high if you think SB was better. Does this game need improvements? Yes. Has there been anything to compete with this since UO/SB? NO. Your a traitor. You left your guild high and dry. You would rather bot and level for your skill instead of working for something, lazy fuck and have levels 1-70 wow style. There is no "I" in team in this game and you are proving you care more about your well-being than being a part of a team for domination. You g/quit cause your fucking emotional. Your nothing but fail Cryrantor aka tear-rantor. It's obvious DF needs more work, everyone knows that. Is it not obvious they will cater to us>? Someone threadlock for teh love of Jehovah.

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Your a traitor




Leaving the guild doesn't make someone a traitor.

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you care more about your well-being than being a part of a team for domination. You g/quit cause your fucking emotional.




I quit for 3 reasons.

1) The guild was booting out "team" members because they were afk/not playing DF. I cared more about our AFK team members than I did about DF because I can see what a pos game it is.. booting people or de ranking them for not buying and playing some shit bucket was fucking stupid.

2) DF is the official game. I'm not going to participate in DF and all anyone did was bitch at people who weren't playing and threaten the boot stick, I don't need to be told what to play especially if I don't like the game if you want to be someones mommy or daddy have a kid and make them be your slave.

3) I prefer small scale GvG style pvp I was disapointed in the guild that its a zergs in game. I don't play games to win at all costs especially not MMOs. Not wanting to lose some shit city that means very little in return for time invested on a server that you're going to leave? When games become more about saving face than playing its not my game or my guild at that point. You can't ever beat the odds if you don't fight the odds.

Are my reasons selfish? Maybe, but so is demanding I play a game I don't like.. so if you want to point your finger at me go ahead.. not like it matters anymore.


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haha i didnt read any other posts cuz Cryrantor was amazing. hahah im still laughing

give him the title its official


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Hey dirty you still play DF? So ...when the guild goes to NA-1 are you going to remind everyone how your rl friends play on EU server and stay behind?

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Damn you guys are still going?? LOL

Excellent thread.

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20 pages of gold and counting.

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im not sure what you mean i dont have any rl friends that play DF. and no i dont play im one of those busy irl people you only read about who for the most part doesnt have any free time

ive been excused, thats what happens when you have 8 years in a guild i have tenure


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