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says the guy who thinks AV's marketing team is going to save the game.
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So rain I'm just wondering.. do you enjoy DF so much because you can macro 24/7 and it gives you an edge to compete with people who actually are better at games than you?
And if thats not why you like it so much could you do me a favor and explain what aspects of DF require the individual player to be able to do more than point and click?
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where you don't point and click...
They all have point and click ya fucking dumbshit, its a fucking computer game... you're gonna talk about TF2 (like it's comprable to an MMO) how its better than DF, but wait! it's a point and click game! Infact, tell me what game you play right now that isn't a point and click game? Typing of the Dead? Thats right folks, only Typing of the Dead shows true skills because it's not a point and click game!!
Using retarded logic like this is why you look like a fucking tool.... you're better off saying DF is just a glorified chatroom...
I'm constipated.... I couldn't give a shit.
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Maybe, maybe not.. most MMOs require you to learn to play a character doing so you learn its strenghs and weaknesses.. which usually games that have classes.. or atleast games that have some type of skill cap leave room for counters that you have to know how to execute.
Atleast most MMOs have some type of skill tree that actually matters.. I mean DF has 100s of skills that are completely passive and retarded but only what 4 melee skills and a mastery thats really just another passive skill. Out of the 4 real melee skills what maybe 1 is actually decent?
If it were a real MMO those skills would probably mean something.. they would be counters for something and not just space fillers until they actually design a skill system thats worth a damn.
Archery is more of the same if not worse.
And magic is so un thoughtful and completly lacking of counters spare some debuffs that are probably just a waste of time to cast vs say a fireball.
My point is the game is so shallow that player skill is completely lacking even in the sense the game doesnt even have counters that people need to learn.. its all just range vs melee to melee vs melee spam click fest.
But people defend it as this great pvp game because why you can macro 24/7 and do more damage than people who don't is that the skill this game was supose to be built on?
Even though I was talking stricktly MMOs in the above question.. since you brought up the TF2 thing all of the classes have another class that can counter them. It does take player skill to recognize that and to be able to actually execute it.
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Waaaaaaaaah! this game isn't like other games i've played!!! that's all i'm reading from you....
you know whats funny, if you imagine that you're talking about UO, your "arguments" are still pretty much spot on...
so you gonna name that non point and click game you play yet?
what i think is hilarious is you're trying to prove your point to me.... a person that doesn't play DF....
I'm constipated.... I couldn't give a shit.
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I never played UO.. but UO had a hardcap you couldn't be everything you could afford to macro non-stop.
Pong is a game you don't point and click.
Why don't you play DF dude its the best game in the world.. everyones doing it.. its not dying I promise.
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I never played UO.. but UO had a hardcap you couldn't be everything you could afford to macro non-stop.
Pong is a game you don't point and click.
Why don't you play DF dude its the best game in the world.. everyones doing it.. its not dying I promise.
Ty, If they added a hard cap, reduced the grind by 50% and added in 6 more hit boxes would you play?
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Those would all be huge improvements on the game but honestly the games so empty it wouldn't be enough to get me interested.
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