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It's not like you can really argue that traditional marriage is a "holy" and "sacred" thing anymore considering almost 50% of hetero marriages end in divorce.
The freedom to marry is as fundamental as freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Let people do what they want, as long as it's not harming anyone, and that's why our country can be a great place to live.
most truthful statement ive seen since all this political bullshit has started
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Actually it won't be overturned because this time they amended the California constitution. Democracy that doesn't have respect for minorities is a lot like two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
This is where you are inconsistent. Your type want to hand pick which social treatment is fair and which is not.
The problem is not gay marriage; the problem is the American people have adhered to a system that allows preferential treatment and discrimination.
When government is able to discriminate taxpayers funds and laws to people based on say class or age (welfare, senior exemption, free state medical, progressive tax system and tax breaks) then why not gender? Marriage is not a constitutional matter, nor a right. It is a privilege that the government recognizes. Since the government is allowed to discriminate its funds to people and entities why is this matter any different?
If some of you want to get rid of this privilege system that is a direct result of government intrusion lets also abolish welfare, our progressive tax system, state sponsored free medical, entitlements, subsidies, tax shifts and all redistributive programs. These systems discriminate funds to specific individuals and entities based on circumstance. Marriage is merely another group that has been granted preferential treatment by our mob ruled system.
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The freedom to marry is as fundamental as freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
Wrong. Marriage is a privilege granted by the state. No where is this contained in our constitution. Unless our new president creates a social bill of rights, but currently privileges are regulated by mob rule.
I wish our country truly adhered to;
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Let people do what they want, as long as it's not harming anyone
Then we wouldn't have discriminatory systems like welfare, entitlements, redistributive programs, tax shifts etc...
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Your quoting 1997?
Laws were passed to correct those lack of rights for civil unions a few years ago.
I never said the law talked about acceptance. I said the movements agenda was about acceptance more than rights from the very start. Go look that part up.
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Stretch...the rights are already in place. You 100% know this to be true but would rather omit your knowledge to further your ridiculous agenda on these boards. California even recognizes all legal civil unions perform in other states as Domestic Partnerships in this state. Domestic Partnerships in California Quote:
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As of 2007, California affords domestic partnerships all of the same rights and responsibilities as marriages under state law (Cal. Fam. Code ?297.5). Among these:
* Making health care decisions for each other in certain circumstances
* Hospital and jail visitation rights that were previously reserved for family members related by blood, adoption or marriage to the sick, injured or incarcerated person.
* Access to family health insurance plans (Cal. Ins. Code ?10121.7)
* Spousal insurance policies (auto, life, homeowners etc..), this applies to all forms of insurance through the California Insurance Equality Act (Cal. Ins. Code ?381.5)
* Sick care and similar family leave
* Stepparent adoption procedures
* Presumption that both members of the partnership are the parents of a child born into the partnership
* Suing for wrongful death of a domestic partner
* Rights involving wills, intestate succession, conservatorships and trusts
* The same property tax provisions otherwise available only to married couples (Cal. R&T Code ?62p)
* Access to some survivor pension benefits
* Supervision of the Superior Court of California over dissolution and nullity proceedings
* The obligation to file state tax returns as a married couple (260k) commencing with the 2007 tax year (Cal R&T Code ?18521d)
* The right for either partner to take the other partner's surname after registration
* Community property rights and responsibilities previously only available to married spouses
* The right to request partner support (alimony) upon dissolution of the partnership (divorce)
* The same parental rights and responsibilities granted to and imposed upon spouses in
One of you is uninformed. The other is spouting bullshit.
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No it is not about rights. Show me where in our constitution it mentions hospital visitation rights, child guardian rights, death benefits, health insurance? See you want to hand pick which social group gets preferential treatment?
You support policies of discrimination when you support entitlements, redistributive programs, tax shifts, welfare etc...
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Nice try putting words in my mouth you hypocritical fuck. Read above..I voted no.
Now go back in your hole I just put you in. I will let you know when you can come out.
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and you would have been for "seperate but equal" back in the day. All men are equal. Period.
But not women!
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and you would have been for "seperate but equal" back in the day. All men are equal. Period.
But not women!
Rash, just because women can drive and vote does NOT make them equal...
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excluding asians
hey how do you blind an asian? put a windshield infront of their face!
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