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#297357 11/05/08 05:20 PM
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Stretch,

I take offense to your post. Yes I do have people working minimum wage, they work at night cleaning the shop. They do not get health care, currently they are all high school students.

The rest get benefits, and are paid a good wage. I am sure most could make more elsewhere, but they have been with me from the start, and were more like a family.

I have never come here stating I am a business guru, but I do own one, and I do have employees. I am creating jobs in my community. And sure you can come in here and say, well if you can not afford a tax hike of 11% then your doing something wrong. Ok I accept that, I should be making money hand over fist, but I am not.

We are the last company in my industry that still produces here in the states. Most of the work is sewing. We work on a very slim margin, because my sewing jobs are not outsourced to the far east.

So tell me how this new government is going to help me out? Why is it fair on any level for someone to pay another persons burden of tax's?

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So its ok to raise taxes because if I hire a better adviser, he can find ways for me to cheat the tax system.

Wow, great advice.

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Stretch, its funny how your dumbass cries about people making assumptions about you than you go right ahead and make assumptions about them...Hypocrit

I use to enjoy arguing with you but the more I see your ideals the more im disgusted at what a fucking idiot you are. You make NO LOGICAL SENSE its all hardcore liberal thought that sounds good to the masses that are poor and thats why you guys always get the poor vote because Democrats are for keeping the poor people poor and hindering them from trying to better themselves. Why work harder when the government is going to take care of me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

You promote mooching, fuck Stretch why dont you send me some extra cash every month via pay pal I'm sure I make less than you right now why dont you abide by your own doctrine and help the less wealthy. I'll make sure to quit my partime job and just take your handout and buy a new compute so I can game with my LoD bros.

But you wont because you'd rather have everyone mooch off of people who have have made it worked hard struggled through tough times and became successful. You see the logic there Stretch?

I know you dont because you seem like one of those guys who doesnt work hard, who stays in school for 10 years yet hasnt gotten his bachelor's degree. You're eating crap and wanting the people who have went straight to the point picked something that they enjoy doing and became the best in that field to pay for your indecision and lack of drive to become successful(If you didnt get it im assuming)

also WHY THE FUCK DO CANADIANS COME OVER TO THE US FOR HEALTHCARE RELATED SHIT WHEN THEY HAVE IT FREE?
Riddle me that batman. Why dont you just fucking move to Canada? You'd be a lot happier, I'd be a lot happier not having to hear all this stupidness about the rich paying for the poors lazyness to not get out and better themselves.

Domino Motherfucker! haha


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Um not its not. 39.3% is what it is. Obama wants to raise it to 50%

http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/23561.html

#297362 11/05/08 05:44 PM
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Wow you are so fucking clueless. You no absolute dick about business Stretch. Your talking so far out your ass its comical. You can't research on the net what you have never learned.

I laugh in your general direction every time you post.

Sucan's company income is tied to his personal income. Now tell where his tax bracket is if the company makes 300,000/yr pre-tax.

Your a fucking tool


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Sucan #297363 11/05/08 07:14 PM
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Sucan,

Plain and simple, you can't argue with Stretch for the following real reasons.

1)He has a mental disorder, it's called Liberalism.
2)Talking to him is like talking to a wall.
3)He currently abuses his social programs and is completely dependent on the government to subsidize his walk through life on your dime, without hand outs what would he do?
4)Even if you're right and he knows it, he'll spin it, digress, and link you to 15 articles that mean nothing about anything.

Conclusion: Don't waste your time trying to be logical with mentally disabled illogical people.

quoted for truth +1


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fyi, no one in my family, or that I know of in my friends group or anyone I know of has ever gone to the states for health care.

If your a healthy person then the system is fine. If you got cancer and 1 month to live, yes you may need a faster time schedule, but otherwise ive only heard of that and never seen a canadian unhappy with the health care or who has gone to the states for anything.

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Quote:

If your a healthy person then the system is fine.




Then why even have healthcare at all if you dont need it? Im talking about the people who need it obviously Sherk I get what you're saying but I wasn't talking about the person that was going in for check ups or w/e


Sucan #297366 11/05/08 09:23 PM
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The tax increase, IF your business brings in more than $ 250k profit(after all deductions, such as payroll and expenses, even a lot of your personal ones)- doesn't seem to me that big. Some individuals have lost a lot more in their 401ks in just one year thanks to greedy big business.

Obama's health plan would require large employers to put some money towards health insurance but on the contrary for small businesses like yours- it would create tax credit. I think it's fair to put some burden on large companies for the health care of their employees and I think businesses would profit from healthier employees.

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I liked McCain's speech last night a lot. I've thrown stones from both sides of the fence, so I can relate with conservative, as well as liberal arguments. But what this country needs right now, more than tax reform, more than budget cuts, or anything else for that matter, is a little team work and unity.

If McCain projected HALF of the love for his people and country during his campaign, as he did last night, we may have a different president elect.

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