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#281787 03/11/08 11:47 PM
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I'm actually baffled that you're surprised about this. You fully deserve to feel that you are being attacked and to have gone on this long, in your consistent fashion, I would think you'd have already been fully aware, if not OK, with that fact. Afterall, whether or not you realize it, you do plenty of attacking on your own and you lobbed the first stone so far back that its purely semantical by now. Stretch, you preach, you condescend and you even insult. I've tried to gain a clear picture of what your agenda is but other than, "I hate the government/Question Authority". Its lost on me as to what goal you're trying to accomplish. You may feel you're providing "Truth", but truth, speculation and opinion do not transcend whether or not it can be positive or negative.
This might surprise you, but I'm not trying to be in the right and prove you wrong. Fact is, I applaud that you take your country seriously enough to be vigilant about its causes and to remain educated about the issues. I respect that you feel it your duty to bring knowledge to others. However, you lack the finesse necessary for others to give it an objective ear. Politics is a taboo subject and people are going to be aggressive about debating political topics. If you cannot respect their opinions, you have no platform to speak to them and they will NEVER listen objectively. When you reach that point, what purpose do you serve in continuing forward? Like I said before, its sadistic and Panemonistic in fashion.
Whatever you may say about my propensity to do the same, you cannot deny this, outside of my tirades on the Lord's board, that really carries little weight here.

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To bother mentioning that you get attacked for stating too much, or stating too little, indicates that you don't really understand why people jump on you left and right (literally). You act like the minute amount of personal rhetoric you post along with your headlines is the only thing that tips your hat. Do you really believe you're being pragmatic everytime you just throw up the headlines? What you choose to 'report' on tells the story just fine without your sparse side rants. Matter of fact, your dissentary (where comment and dissent merge) actually plays very little into it for many of us.

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oh ya they set him up.....give me a break.
The guy broke the law. He runs on an anti corruption "Mr Clean" platform. He broke up prostitution rings...er look like he shakes them down......
Stop using Craig as an example to make what Spitzer did right. Its horseshit, not humor.


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#281792 03/12/08 02:34 AM
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#281793 03/12/08 02:46 AM
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Don't cover your ears and pretend like a tyke that you cannot 'hear' me. Saying you don't understand what I'm saying is much akin to acting like a baby. Let me help you figure out what I'd like you to address.
1. As a confirmed Obama supporter, why do you continue to drudge the internet for headlines that promote negativity?
2. By exclusively bashing Republicans, how do you feel that people will see you as the objective voice of reason when you make nothing but excuses everytime a Democrat runs afoul? After all, you're just playing the same old game of political strategists who care to do their talking through the headlines. Nothing enlightening there.
3. Why do you continue to 'carry the torch' here when even those who would believe concurrently don't want you speaking for their side?
4. What is your agenda? Besides supporting Obama, you've clearly stated, "I just want to save American lives". Frankly, this just doesn't seem to add up, because either you're that horrible at gaining support, or more than likely, its bullshit and, much like Panemon, you're just here because you want attention, no matter if its negative or positive.
I don't believe I could be any more clear than this.

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1. wtf does one have to do with the other? go fish (ps: the negativity is generated because these things happen in real life, not because I post about them)

Maybe this is indeed why I have the hardest time 'digesting' you're backing of Obama. Because of your failure to grasp one of his key concepts behind his campaign, its much easier to see you as a Hillary camper. I suppose its necessary to point out that you'd help Obama's cause far more by touting his strengths than pointing out the weaknesses of the Republican party. For those of us here who could be fence sitters, you're galvanizing support against your causes rather than for them.
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2. I don't exclusively bash Republicans. There are a lot of Democratic enablers of Republicans I dislike as well.

Its quite possible that you do shed light on Democrats that are running afoul, but I don't really care to dig them up. Fact is, its like finding a needle in a haystack of anti-Republican posts. Once again, I turn back to the fact that positive headlines are perhaps more crucial to furthering a pro-Democratic agenda than simply making the Republicans out to be the meanies.
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3. (haha you can't count) I don't really see this as 2 sides. You do I guess. I only speak for myself.

First off, thank you for pointing out my numerical mistake. Its been fixed! I'm going out on a limb (opinion) but I believe you're a 'dyed in the wool' Democrat. Why? You don't really seem to subscribe to any other frame of mind and that seems to be supported by the fact that you never undermine the Democrats while unceasingly propogating anti-Republican views. I guess you can say you 'speak' for yourself, but you're obviously not doing a lot of speaking. You primarily pick and choose headlines from your authoritative sources to do your talking. I do agree with you that there are far more than 2 sides, but from your standpoint, its pretty black and white.
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4. What does saving American lives have to do with posting newsworthy stories on the internet? You are thinking small with the limited set of information which you can barely digest.

I suppose you really didn't like the previous question or else it wouldn't have generated such a nonchalant answer. If I was thinking small, you certainly 'one upped' me with that answer. Its about time you took a look in the mirror and faced yourself for what you are; a Democrat. Nothing wrong with this, mind you, but you're NOT a source for interesting news, outside of your own head, here on the LoD forums. I need to, once again, reiterate this: You have not gotten the kind of support from this community that would promote the continuation of your efforts to "post newsworthy stories". Its not newsworthy to us. Its little more than smear tactics usually and when not smearing Republicans, you do little more than post leftist issues that most here find little ground for agreement. If there is something I cannot 'digest' its lack of being upfront for what you believe in and promoting it in a positive fashion. You do neither of these things. Stretch, I'll never call you stupid, but I can easily call you shortsighted and askew of the big picture. You're not even inline with the 'camp' you claim.
Start being more positive and self effacing when engendering your views. Obama could genuinely use the support of a person such as you, but if you continue in the fashion you've previously employed, its going to be a tough road to hoe.

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enforcing the law on rich guys like Couls who are so used to getting away with everything short of murder.

Why your so upset at people who through sweat & grit become successful is beyond me. Do I owe you or society something Andrew? Can I keep my own dollars or am I in some way obligated to give it away? What do I owe for making money? I pay my taxes. 46% of my income to be exact. How much of your income do you pay as %? Should I pay more because I have more? Is their law that says "share the wealth?"
I see you green with envy in every post about my wealth. It eats you up. I am not drinking your milkshake. I am drinking one I made and you can't have any of it.
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I don't know if Couls fits in the category of 'rich' or somewhere in the middle class. Thats his business, not mine. However, I am middle class and I do know that I pay 40+% tax of my income too and that shit doesn't float. Fact is, if your household has an income of less than 250k annually, you're still middle class. That is a grey figure, but based on general definition of middle class.
I can't point to Republicans or Democrats and see an easy answer when it comes down to who is going to strengthen, or overburden the middle class. Republicans like to reward the uppercrust and Democrats have had a long tenure of placing the tax burden on everyone above the poverty line. In the US the middle class comprises by far the largest percentage of our population. That is where consumerism is strongest and where our economy flourishes. Most of those considered rich, started in the middle class and still rely on its health to support their industry and investments. If the government does not continue to promote this 'sweet spot' in our economy, then the whole cookie will crumble. Just look at countries like Mexico, and any other 3rd world country, as an example.
Additionally, small to medium businesses need incentives parallel to large industries. Likewise, tax incentives for Research and Development (R&D) need to be addressed as its becoming overlooked in a commoditized market. Without innovation, American loses its longheld edge.

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