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I figured you out Rainman.
You would much rather believe in pro wrestling on TV and watch it because ?it? is real.
Rather than read what I had to say quoting right from the Bible with scriptures. While you say it?s my own words or im preaching about ?ME? when it was from the bible.
Go back to watching TV and believe that it?s all TRUE.
Some one said I cant prove that GOD is true or there or alive . prove to me that he is NOT.

very true the bible was writen by men . infact ..
In making known his purposes, God ?spoke on many occasions and in many ways? over a long period of time. (Heb. 1:1) The penmen who wrote down his Word did so from 1513?B.C.E. to about 98?C.E., or during about 1,610 years. The one Author, Jehovah God, used about 40 of these scribes, or human secretaries. All these cowriters were Hebrews and thus members of the nation ?entrusted with the sacred pronouncements of God.? (Rom. 3:2) Eight of them were Christian Jews who knew Jesus either personally or through his apostles. The inspired Scriptures written before their time had borne witness concerning the coming of the Messiah, or Christ. (1?Pet. 1:10,?11) Although called from many walks of life, these earthly Bible writers, from Moses to the apostle John, all shared in upholding the sovereignty of Jehovah God and proclaiming his purposes in the earth. They wrote in Jehovah?s name and by the power of his spirit.?Jer. 2:2,?4; Ezek. 6:3; 2?Sam. 23:2; Acts 1:16; Rev. 1:10.

Many people quote from the bible though.
The guy from Topeka Kansas that runs the Anti-Gay church has messages that are littered with scripture.
Truth is that everyone can make an argument for or against something with some piece of the bible.
Thankfully for all of us we live in a country were can practice any religion we would like.
If you'd like to promote your faith Clown that is fine. Before everyone gets pisT off read his disclaimer before the essay.

I would like to point out a recent archeological find "The dead sea scrolls" (discovered between 1947-1979), which are some of the oldest documents ever discovered and were written about 150AD. Its amazing if you read them how closely they resemble the scriptures, (hint: they are identical in content, translations vary). Though written by men, it is pretty miraculous how closely they match the current bible, while being written almost 2000 years ago. Just pondering material.
-Colin

Except for all the parts which are different in the King James Bible and the inconsistencies between the different versions and historical data.

Where is the evidence of an afterlife?
I will admit I do not know there is an afterlife, I have faith one exists.
While those who do NOT believe in an afterlife exists do so also without proof.
The common assumption is that we both don't know. The difference is I admit that I don't know and have faith there is, whereas the opposing view is that they also do not know yet have faith there isn't. Others are just uncertain.

Both are a leap of faith
Another point, most of you believe Socrates existed right? Yet there are only two historical sources that say a man named Socrates existed. Plato and Xenophoen and even some of Xenophon's historical background and birth date is not recorded. Yet no history guru's deny Socrate's existance.
The bible is backed up by ample historical evidence; The Axe, the 4 gospels, Josephus (Jewish historical evidence), enemy sources such as Nero, Pontias, Tiberius. Edwin Yamauchi the historian writing about Christ. The letters of Pliny, Babylonian Talmud the compilation of Jewish writings. Lucian of Samosata was a second century Greek satirist wrote of Jesus's existance.
Arguing this from a secularist point of view. The reliability of the bible being a historical document describing the life of Jesus Christ is just not refutable, as you atheists, or theists, agnostics, people of reason would put it, it is scientifically and historically a factual document.
Arguing this from a theological point of view is one that I cannot prove. I cannot prove the unprovable, it is just faith. There is no video I can post on YouTube showing the creation of my Messiah from God. If such a video did exist, then the validity of the video would be at question. Which brings us back to square one, you as a skeptic would have to see it to believe it.
I would also acknowledge the great leap of faith in believing man was created by steaming pile of mucus as such a theory has not been recreated, nor proved.

Atheism Vs Christianity - Most of those ideas were not my own
-FLea

if so, you're awesome. i could never understand anything you said, but regardless, you were/are a badass.

Flea, can you update the link, I can't get it to work. Many thanks.

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Good movie. If you haven't already seen it yet. I find it to be rather interesting.
O and yes.. Long time lurker..

First I don't watch pro wrestling. Second I don't have a television. Third, I have read the entire bible over a dozen times and can quote scripture as well as you. However, since I haven't done it since I was 14 I would probably get some of the numbers off.
Last, I said I could prove your religion wrong. Prove that your god doesn't exist. I didn't say I could prove that religion is wrong and that god doesn't exist. Notice the words "YOUR".
The proof is already out there. It is not my job to preach to foolish people who don't know how to crosscheck references. You should learn to search this site called "www.google.com". Cams just discovered it I think.
You can find all the answers to Christianity, Judism, and Jehova Witness..ism.
BTW clown I would also like to mention that Jehoba Witness is my most FAVORITE religion based off the bible. Since people who commit sin and die don't go to hell. They go to eternal nothingness, which is a good chance what would already happen. Win/Win religion in my opinion