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i dont see how religion is damaging the future of humans when it was existed throughout human history. and also, not trying to argue the case, but what evidence other than "i dont believe in some invisible guy" do you have to say there is no god or omniscient omnipresent all knowing all good being somewhere?

*NT*

I use my eyes thats how.
Your supposed God has been AFK for 5000 years now , time to get a clue.

and i suppose everything you have "used your eyes" for in your life has been correct.

theres a ton of crazy philosophy refuting and defending the existence of a god. you could spend your entire life studying it and still have no answer.

If religion facilitates becoming a better person, then I hardly think believing in it doesn't mean you waste your time on earth. In fact, the opposite could be argued for religion. From my experience in religion I am positive it would make God very unhappy if we wasted our lives on earth, this doesn't mean spending every waking moment evangelizing or in prayer, it does mean being a normal human-being, and sharing their knowledge of Jesus however they see fit. (which is in the image of God), it even means relaxing and playing Shadowbane and UO.
As for a lack of character, I would argue that it's harder to give your life to a being whom you have never seen, but you know s/he's there (faith). I have faith in alot of things that aren't visible. gravity, wind, and sound. I have faith in friendships and relationships, none of these mean I don't think for myself or somehow am fundamentally less-equal than you in any respect. We are all equal.

Here's two facts for you.
1) You're right. We can spend our entire lives trying to see if god exists. I personally think god probably does exist. However, I think of god more as a mathematical phenomenon that started a chain reaction. Rather than an all-knowing all-seeing super being.
2) We can however study other religions and find out that some of them are based off of pure cultural mythology. Like Christianity. I can't tell you that God doesn't exist, but I can tell you that the God Christians worship doesn't exist.
So yes. Some parts are refutable, others are not. However, going around and spreading my belief that Christianity is false is just as dumb as clown preaching to us "non believers". So normally I just say my peace and move on.
I get Christianity pushed on me more than I have ever pushed ANYTHING on anyone in my entire life, and I have been in sales before!

It's actually pretty interesting if you sit down and compare the similarities of religion's based on history.
Some might call it cliche, but a fictional book (The Da Vinci Code) really helped bring religious history into mainstream for the 21st century.

Don't forget the devil knew ahead of time all of these events were going to take place. So through out time he had caused similar pagan events on the same days. Thus to trick people. At least this is what my mom told me when I was a kid.
This is the reason why the Christian church made astrology a big enemy. Saying it would let the "devil" in your head.

ORGANIZED RELIGION IS CORRUPT BECAUSE ICP SAYS SO
"Give God the first portion of your income, say that with me,
Give God the first portion of your income. Give it first!
Not after deducts, not after the social security, and the
hospitilization, and the malnutrition. Not after all these
things on your check you say, I'm gonna give God a little what's
left. You do, and that's what you gonna get from God."
[Violent J]
Who am I? I'm not the Devil
I can take you to my level
Above the rocks, above the earth
Tell me what your soul is worth
How much money do you make?
How much will you let me take?
I will give you tranquilty
Just send your wealth and checks to me
Life is going to expire
And your soul will burn in fire
You will perish in the thunder
Unless you call my hotline number
God has asked you to make me rich
Me and my fat-whack gaudy bitch
On your T.V.'s late at night
Send those checks and I'll guide you to the light
"Don't put away your wallets just yet, brothers and sisters. There's
somebody here I'd like all of you to meet. This is little Jonathan.
Jonathan, say hello to the lovely people, (hello). Jonathan has
problems. Twisted neck, tangled legs, crooked spine, but we can heal
this boy. For just, uh, six thousand dollars, we can heal this boy!"
[Violent J]
God had called me and then stopped by
And he told me you're gonna die
Unless you buy my holy water
Check, cash, or a money order
This is true, don't question me
I'll even send you shit for free
It's only ten bucks for the call
And I'll send a prayer, no charge at all
Put your lips up to the screen
Close your eyelids and intervene
Your lips to mine, now send the cash
And while you're there, you can kiss my ass
Take your paycheck and send me half
And I'll send you God's autograph
I'll get Allah's and Buddha's too
Even Zeus, I don't give a fuck who
Just send me that money
"Would you like to healed, little Jonathan? (yes, reverand).
You see brothers and sisters, this...(beep-beep beep-beep)
Excuse me. I told you never to page me on a sermon day. Yes?
Uh-huh. Hallalujah. Outty. People, that was the lord, today only,
he will heal this boy, for just five thousand dollars!"
Pass the collection plate (show-show me how you give)
Pass the collection plate (g-give-give, how to live)
Pass the collection plate (show-show-show me how you give)
Pass the collection plate (show me how you give, I'll tell you how to live)
[Violent J]
Your total's twenty-two eleven
For your set of keys to heaven
Make the checks out in my name
Me or God, it's all the same
Bring your crippled ass to me
Pay my usher the holy fee
I'll bless your legs and bless your chair
Then wheel your bitch-ass outta here
Now a special ceremony
This part don't cost any money
Drip a drop of blessed water
Now I fertalize your daughter
Even though I fucked a hooker
Took your baby girl and shook her
You still buy everything I sell
And I'm living well
See you in Hell!
"Four-thousand, eight-hundred, nine-hundred, five thousand
Hallalujah, you did it brothers and sisters. Are you ready, Jonathan?
(yes, reverand) Lord Almighty, we've met your price, give me the
healing power, I can feel it, Lord! Roomy loomy lama noma noomy!
This boy is healed. (really?) Now to the naked eye, it would appear
that this boy has not been healed, but I can assure you, this boy's
spirit has been healed. Inside this tangled, mangled frame is a healed
little boy. His spirit is healed, Hallalujah!"