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?If you don?t want to know about the Bible or Religion just stop now! Don?t read any further and if you just want to make problems just stop now!?
Do what you wish or say what you want.
Im not trying to ?Convert ?anyone just sharing some Bible info.
If you?re not able to understand a Volcano illustration that?s your problem, I know for a fact there where people at ?mt saint Helen? that stayed when they were told to get out. and died either berried alive or burnt by the hot ash . so not everyone will think clear and not everyone will choose to leave even when there is a very real situation . some people will stay . To me that?s just stupid but hey that?s there choice
Your choice sounds to be the same. * woot go freedom of choice*
I choose to believe in the Bible and take it as truth in so doing have a responsibility to share what I know with others and inform them of the day coming be that happy or sad each person as a individual will make a choice .
I like that God looks at us in a individual way . not like the War machines of today that drop a Bomb on a city from 30k feet in the air and wiping out people on a mass scale . at Radom killing.
In the end each one will have to answer for what each person does.
Jesus acknowledged that God had appointed him as a judge who met the divine standard. At John 5:22 he said: "For the Father judges no one at all, but he has committed all the judging to the Son." After mentioning a coming resurrection of those who are in the memorial tombs, Jesus added: "I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative; just as I hear, I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me."-John 5:30; Psalm 72:2-7.
How well this assurance harmonizes with what we read at Acts 17:31! There Paul too gave assurance that the Son would "judge the inhabited earth in righteousness." That certainly does not suggest any rigid, inflexible, and unfeeling justice, does it? Rather, righteous judgment involves tempering justice with mercy and understanding. Let us not overlook this: Though Jesus is now in heaven, he has been a human. So he can be empathetic. At Hebrews 4:15, 16 Paul touches on this in describing Jesus as a high priest.
While reading Hebrews 4:15, 16, think of the relief we should feel to have Jesus as Judge: "For we have as high priest [and judge], not one who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who has been tested in all respects like ourselves, but without sin. Let us, therefore, approach with freeness of speech to the throne of undeserved kindness, that we may obtain mercy and find undeserved kindness for help at the right time." In courtrooms today, it is often frightening to be called before the Bench. Yet, in the case of Christ as Judge, we can 'approach with freeness of speech that we may find mercy, undeserved kindness, and help at the right time.' Regarding time, however, you have good reason to ask, 'When will Jesus judge mankind in righteousness?'

"I choose to believe in the Bible and take it as truth in so doing have a responsibility to share what I know with others and inform them of the day coming be that happy or sad each person as a individual will make a choice."
That's where you are completely wrong.
You choose to believe in something that is fake as the truth. Fine. However, that doesn't give you ANY RIGHT to share what you think as the "truth". As gospel. You can't preach your intentionally unsubstantiated claims to other people when it is only true to you. That's the problem with religion. It's not about YOU. It is never about just YOU. Admit it or not it is about converting others to your belief system. Your so brainwashed you can't even see it for yourself.
If you want to preach to other people. Then you must preach facts. You can't preach what YOU think is real when everyone else knows it is a lie and fake. Then ignore their claims and move to the next person.

Do not make me bitch slap jehovah. Cause I'll come for you next.

Drones since the dawn of time
Compelled to live your sheltered lives
Not once has anyone ever seen
Such a rise of pure hypocracy
I'll instigate I'll free your mind
I'll show you what I've known all this time
God Hates Us All, God Hates Us All
You know it's true God hates this place
You know it's true he hates this race
Homicide-Suicide
Hate heals, you should try it sometime
Strive for Peace with acts of war
The beauty of death we all adore
I have no faith distracting me
I know why your prayers will never be answered
God Hates Us All; God Hates Us All
He Fuckin' hates me
Pessimist, Terrorist targeting the next mark
Global chaos feeding on hysteria
Cut throat, slit your wrist, shoot you in the back fair game
Drug abuse, self abuse searching for the next high
Sounds a lot like hell is spreading all the time
I'm waiting for the day the whole world fucking dies
I never said I wanted to be God's disciple
I'll never be the one to blindly follow
Man made virus infecting the world
Self-destruct human time bomb
What if there is no God would you think the fuckin' same
Wasting your life in a leap of blind faith
Wake the fuck up can't ignore what I say
I got my own philosophy
I hate everyone equally
You can't tear that out of me
No segregation -separation
Just me in my world of enemies
I never said I wanted to be God's disciple
I'll never be the one to blindly follow
I'll never be the one to bear the cross-disciple
I reject this fuckin' race
I despise this fuckin' place

Responding to Rainman,

Not to butt in but, I'm unsure what you mean about any right to share what you think as the "truth" of the gospel. I'm concerned why he is fundamentally not able to share what he believes is truth... Isn't that what everyone in this thread is doing? Arguing truth in their own lives? Indeed you are doing the same (albeit opposite) thing by arguing against it, isn't that what this is about?
Everyone should be able to share their thoughts and be respected individuals.
You are absolutely correct that religion isn't about "YOU", and it never is. Converting others comes out of God's word, it's as if you held a great secret, a wonderful possession, and all you wanted to do was share it with friends, wouldn't you?
Sharing it however should be of one's personal self, not preaching, and certainly not right-wing evangelicals of the midwest, but sharing your faith (whatever it might be) should come out of service and caring for others.
Jesus did not preach a religion, he gave himself. And really at the heart said "Follow me".

Stretch this is your opportunity to preach about scientology.

heh, but I was thinking more along the lines of this:
You go to the church, you kiss the cross
You will be saved at any cost
You have your own reality
Christianity
You spend your life just kissing ass
A trait thats grown as time has passed
You think the world will end today
You praise the lord, its all you say
Jesus saves, listen to you pray
You think youll see the pearly gates
When death takes you away
For all respect you cannot lust
In an invisible man you place your trust
Indirect dependency
Eternal attempt at amnesty
He will decide who lives and dies
Depopulate satans rise
You will be an accessory
Irreverence and blasphemy
Jesus saves, no need to pray
The gates of pearl have turned to gold
It seems youve lost your way
Jesus saves, no words of praise
No promised land to take you to
There is no other way

Dude I was brainwashed into your stupid religion starting from Age 0. I already know what you are going to say before you say it. Religious people are predictable.
The answer to the above question is NO. I am not doing the same thing by denouncing your religious belief. I am not "BELIEVING" that you are wrong. I know you are wrong. I don't KNOW you are wrong because I feel it in my gut. I know you are wrong because I have researched your religion in full detail since I started thinking independently about myself when I was getting older and more mature.
If you guys wanted to share you belief. Then the post would have look more something like this:
"My name is clown and I am a jehova witness. As a jehova we believe the following."
Instead you begin by quoting scripture and automatically claiming it as truth.
Don't try to hornswaggle me with your voodoo.

I, like unlike you didn't start out as a believer. I was trained that churches were brainwash and not to get sucked in by my father who's opinion I respect. I re-read my post and certainly came off a bit brash, I apologize.
To undermine an individuals belief shows a lack of respect for them and ultimately is selfish. I choose to see your points because I know they are valid thoughts, feelings, emotions and intellect.
For a person to see the way I do, fundamental truths are to be established, clearly you don't share the perspective and have no interest in humoring what I believe is truth. There is nothing wrong with this and don't take it as such.
My voodoo is the product of my experience and maturity. And I don't claim it to be everyone's. Christians fundamentally of all religions believe the following, feel free to comment on the listed topics:
- Christ died for man's sins, God gave his only son so that man might be able to be with God in eternity.
- Christ rose again on the third day -- this is the meat and potatoes, believing that Christ rose again changes Jesus from a "good guy with good teachings" to something more ethereal.
- Accepting Jesus into your heart and repenting of your sin brings everlasting life ***
*** more on this subject. Christians of all denominations are divided on this, to some it means "Everlasting Salvation" and others don't believe in it. Everlasting salvation is the notion that once you become a believer you cannot through deeds "lose" your salvation by wrong doing. To other Christians, they believe you can in essence lose salvation and after being saved go to hell. It's sad people can be divided by such petty things, but it happens.
I am a raging liberal, and am pretty undecided on the topic of abortion, I am more pro-choice currently, because I choose to think for myself.
Pigeon-holing anyone into a archetype you have setup for "Christians" is silly. Instead judge others by the content of their character. A statement I hope we all can agree is a good one.

1. Religion exists to prey on those who lack character and seek a supposed all knowing figure to tell them how to live. It shows a distinct lack of character to have to have someone tell you how to exist.
2. Religion is holding back scientific progress and damaging the future of all humans.
I don't hate people who believe in a form of religion i just feel sorry their incapable of living their lives for them selves NOT for some invisible guy in the sky, because in the end you only get one life and wasting it is a shame.