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If anyone thinks this has anything to do with "getting high" you couldn't be wrong more.

can you please explain what it has to do with then?

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Besides making populist appeals in states with the ability to put propositions on the ballot, the real problem with decriminalizing marijuana is at the federal level which will supercede state law in this area (we can take some comfort because this usually means federal resources will be used in enforcement rather than local). Still, the 800 lbs gorilla in the room is the DEA's ability to raid clubs and grow ops regardless of state and local law. What can be done about that if its not to elect a President willing to look weak on the "War on Drugs"? That's not semantics at all.

Once again I agree completely with everything expect a democratic president making any difference in drug policy. I actually see certain key democratic figures making the war on drugs worst, ala Hillary Clinton. Perhaps semantics wasn't the right word though.
However, what do you think will happen if one of the upcoming initiatives (currently nevada and colorado) passes. I forsee the same thing thats going on in California. DEA making examples of people and wasting their time shutting down dispensiarys. However, having no impact on reversing prop 215.
I've been calling Nevada voters on my time off today, and have been getting great feedback with how many people are voting on Question 7, the marijuana regulation initiative. Say the initiative passes, what do you forsee taking place on the state level\fed level?

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You think some of that money doesn't make its way back to our goverment?

Sounds of conspiracy theory...
unless you mean seizing assets....

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Well, Hilliary is a center-right Democrat (who has been falsely labeled as extreme left by certain demonizing right-wing forces that don't care about truth). People like Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Edward Kennedy, John Edwards I'd imagine to be much more sympathetic.

Howard Dean and John Edwards would make things worst. Matter fact, John Edwards is rediculous to even pretend he supports any form of Civil Liberties. I do not like the guy at all.
Nancy Pelosi and Kennedy have much more open views. However, are they really "likely" candidates for 2008 elections? I don't have to shake my magic eight ball to see all signs point to no.
What I was replying to originally was lev saying its a democrat vs. republican thing. Yes, there are democrats who support cannabis. There are also republicans. Saying that democrats winning the election will sway the votes to be more liberal on marijuana is just wrong, because all we need is another Bill Clinton to pump billions more dollars into the war on marijuana and we are back to square 1.

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I'm not sure why you'd think Dean and Edwards are haters. I'd throw out Obama on that list. When asked about inhaling in his autobiography he replied of course he did, that was the point.
And I don't think you can't point out a big name Republican who is on record about reforming drug laws. =/

Dean and Edwards back the DEA's raids on medicinal clubs, doesn't matter what the rest of their views are. I find that just disguisting and grimmy. Edwards even went a step further to tell people in WHEELCHAIRS they can't use their 1st amendment rights and peacefully protest the DEA arrests outside of Edwards offices.
Only Republican that comes to mind is Marylands Gov. Who is still a stickler, but a lot more open to reforming corrupt drug laws. However, not a presidential candidate if that's the criteria we're going for.
Dude, come back to this thread after Question 7 closes for Nevada on Tuesday. I'm sure I'll have a shit load to talk about no matter which way the polls go.

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Looks like the votes not doing well, it was expected but still dissapointing. The numbers due look better than 2002 though. I still believe california will be leading the front in anti-prohibition laws. So time to rewrite some statute and start preparing for 2008.

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I thought I heard something on the TV early this morning about a canabis bill passing somewhere in Cali...?

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They have Marijuanna vending machines in Cally now!!


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I didn't read the whole thread, but I'm wondering how hemp = gasoline alternative.
I assume they'd use it to make ethanol, like they currently do with corn. The process works, but I guess corn prices have gone up too much to really be financially successful. So really, hemp = corn alternative? If that's what you're saying, I don't think they'd legalize marijuana just so they can grow it for commercial biofuel use since apparently they already know what the best thing is to grow for biofuel. It's some injun plant called switchgrass.
Anyway.. marijuana should be legalized for a lot of reasons, but probably not because of the one you posted about.

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I didn't read the whole thread, but I'm wondering how hemp = gasoline alternative.
I assume they'd use it to make ethanol, like they currently do with corn. The process works, but I guess corn prices have gone up too much to really be financially successful. So really, hemp = corn alternative? If that's what you're saying, I don't think they'd legalize marijuana just so they can grow it for commercial biofuel use since apparently they already know what the best thing is to grow for biofuel. It's some injun plant called switchgrass.
Anyway.. marijuana should be legalized for a lot of reasons, but probably not because of the one you posted about.

Not to mention Hemp and Marijuana are two different plants.


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