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this might be for you. Plus you geyt alot of innane dialogue explaining everything.
Its all redeemed by the fact that Natalie Portman is in it though playing Natalie Portman playing some british chick.

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Yes, the Gunpowder Plot is also celebrated as a holiday in Britain. The entire V plot, in both manga and movie form, is based heavily on figures like Guy Fox, who headed the plot to blow up Parliament.
And, yes, I got that information from an E special on the movie. Sue me. Good movie, I'd recommend seeing it, but don't discuss it with any douchebags who will try to start a political debate after seeing it.

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trading one fascism for another ftw! i'll probably rent it when it comes out.

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Trying to respond to what you might be implying is highly speculative, at best. Plus, I haven't seen the movie.
If you think it's not possible to trade one sort of fascism for another, all of your "political theory" courses were a waste of money.

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that involves politics? or do you just study up on it so you can be an uber board warrior?


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fas?cism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fshzm)
n.
1. often Fascism
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.
In the most restrictive use of the word, it ONLY includes the Italian government around 1920-1940s.
I'm going to have to charge a tution fee for any additional lessons though.

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So now we finally get to what you really meant in your first post.
Calling the V hero a "facist" is a conclusion reached by Ivan, that I happened to expand upon (including a note that I haven't seen the movie yet). I have no idea how he reached that conclusion. The only thing I inferred was that the people in "V" were currently living under fascism.
Did you even read the definition of fascism? It seems like they do need to make the dictionary required reading. Fascism and "different belief systems" aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. You are correct in saying that the term is misused by a bunch of lazy "contemporaries" though:
http://www.inminds.co.uk/fascist-state-logo.gif
http://www.bartcop.com/fascist-frog.jpg
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/notheocracy.jpg
http://www.the-clearing.org/Photos/Other/030322/03220171.jpg
http://www.the-clearing.org/Photos/Other/030322/03220085.jpg

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Or I guess you could just be a lazy contemporary who doesn't care what the meaning of facism is and would rather just use it to describe anything different from their exact belief system.

OMG that is exactly what liberals do to me on the political forums that I troll, that and use the word "bigot" very loosely.

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jesus. i am buying it the day it comes out.
that was so fucking unbeliveable.
i talked about it for 2 days


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