Lords of Death Forums Lords of Death Forums LoD General Discussion So, where were the WMD coming from?

Muj.... your seeing things locally....
Try to see it more GLOOOOBALLY
Obviously things are going to get more "dangerous" if we are finally attacking those who despise us. Its only common sense. I dont think any course of action would allow us to be "safer" in terms of terrorism. Shit doesnt come cheap. Gotta throw yourself in harms way to defeat it.

you know, if president Bush came on the air in august of 2001 and said today i authorized air strikes agaisnt some rag-head in Iraq, because hes a threat to national security; the american liberals and probably conservatives would haev said WTF whos this guy we never heard of.
I hate to say it but al these arguements are hindsite. Remember Ollie North? during congressional hearings he said the bigest threat to the US is Osama Bin-Laden, and yeah we had military intelligence on him, we knew where he was and we had plenty of oppurtunity to kill him(19 years). Why not ask why Bill Clinton didn't kill him?
I'll tell you why, because noone foresaw the horror of 9-11. Terrorists in general were bomb builders ect, that would blow up a building or something but noone ever saw the pearl harbor of terror attacks coming.
Had ANY president known that osama binladen was planning 9-11, they would have taken him out or at least i would hope to think that they would, Had any president known that (sp) Al Zequarie was goign to lop off heads of kidnapped coalition, they would have taken him out.
Get your fucking heads out of your asses and think bout it without trying to add any political inference or proving any points. Look at whats going on for what it is. A war on those who attacked us, and who will continue to attack us.
Maybe you don't understand the scope of the attack of 9-11, it wasn't just to tear down the world's tallest buildings, it was a economic attack more than anything. Bin Laden had STOCK in the company that inusred the trade towers and sold ALL the stock he owned JUST prior to the attacks. which means he stood to gain from the attacks finacially.
NOT to mention that he attacked the HEART of not just teh US economy, but the WORLD economy as the MAJOR FUTURE trade orginizations were housed in the world's trade centers.
This was an attempt to bring America to its knees, and it worked, for a coupel of weeks, and we perserveered and overcame the attack, NOT without battlescars. The attacks cost us companies going bankrupt, cost us JOBS!!! and if you think im kidding, i am a LITTLE TINY company in rural PA and I was affected by the attack because the company i was doing business with was doing busines with someone that went bankrupt BECAUSE of the attack, which forced them into bankruptcy with ended up sticking me.
Stop being so goddamn anal retentive about this entire thing and look at it for what it is. i wish someone would restate this quote on national TV -
"ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country"
If you want to know where the problems in foreign polotics are? take a DEEp look at the UN.
UN inspectors were inspecting the sites that held the supposed WMD just months before our arrival, then IRAQ wouldn't let them there anymore? want to knwo why? i DON"Y know but i speculate that was so Iraq could MOVE the stuff without the prying eye of UN Inspectors .
mujahadeen, if you think we are safer letting these people to their own agenda's and sitting back and waiting for them to attack us, then you are an idiot.

I believe what Muj is saying is that he agrees we are in a war against muslim fundamentalists, but our current strategy which invovles a pre-emptive attack on Iraq was misguided and has not been effective.
Since the war on Iraq the fundamentalist muslim groups that are the greatest threat to the US have gained recruits, found easy access to weapons, and have found themselves with a variety of "easy" targets to kill. Zarqawi described them as "Easy and mouthwatering targets for the believers". In addition groups such as Lashkar-e-Tyaba which used to be focused on Pakistan are sending "holy warriors" to Iraq to kill US soliders and civilians. Finally the US has lost a great deal of support in the international community and our army is spread to thin making it much more difficult for us to deal with the immediate threats of Iran and N. Korea.
I don't think anyone doubts that we are in a war, but we disagree with the strategy AND execution.
Many of us are well aware of the effects of the 9/11 attacks. I live 1 mile away from WTC and had 3 friends killed. My co went out of business and I was out of work for 4 months, so I know the effects. That is why I supported the war in Afghanistan, but not Iraq
That picture you have in your sig...when it says why we are here...where is here? Is that Iraq or Afghanistan ?

I dont think you can slap a specific "area" to that sig tich. It refers to all the major terrorist attacks that have happened over the years.
Maybe it means "why we are where we are today" ?

th epic means why we are whereever we are deployed during the war of terror, no matter where it takes us