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Things that make you think a little........
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during January.....
In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January.
That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq.
When some claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following ..
FDR...led us into World War II.
Germany never attacked us: Japan did.
>From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.
Truman...finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us.
>From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,334 per year.
John F. Kennedy. ..started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.
Johnson...turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton...went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked u s.
Clinton was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
In the two years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has
....liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida,
put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.
We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chapaquiddick.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!
Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high!
The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.
Wait, there's more.......................
JOHN GLENN ON THE SENATE FLOOR
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13
Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John ! Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.
This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.
Senator Metzenbaum to Senator Glenn: "How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?"
Senator Glenn: "I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program.
It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank. I ask you to go with me ... as I went the other day... to a veteran's hospital and look those men - with their mangled bodies - in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job! You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee... and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job. You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags.
You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job? I'll tell you, Howard Metzenbaum; you should be on your knees every day of your life thanking God that there were some men - SOME MEN - who held REAL jobs. And they required a
dedication to a purpose - and a love of country and a dedication to duty - that was more
important than life itself. And their self-sacrifice is what made this country possible.
I HAVE held a job, Howard! What about you?"
For those who don't remember - During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA.
Now he is a Senator!
If you can read this, thank a teacher.... If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran. It might not be a bad idea to keep this circulating 'till November...

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Nobody said anything about justification, or if it's right or wrong, I simply said it was a different perspective. It's not up to me to decide if 1,000 deaths is justified, I cannot speak on that because I haven't lost anyone close to me in this war, and I don't make government decisions.
I just enjoyed the different perspective, it's refreshing, but it doesn't matter with you, any perspective other than yours is wrong, so what's the point of replying to me or gore for that matter?


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Strech, Strech, Strech....*sigh*. There's no use telling him anything other than what some liberal idiot told him during his impressionable days that some other liberal douche told that liberal idiot. However...
Japan attacked and nearly destroyed Pearl Harbor. We, in turn, declared war on Japan. However, Japan, Italy and Germany were allied. And when someone attacks your ally, you attack 'em back. Same thing happen 30 years prior, when the Balkans were called the "powder keg" of Europe.
Korea. Cold War era. National thought at that time was anything Communist-related was a step toward our destruction and should be stopped at all costs. Same deal with Vietnam. It was national belief at the time that Communism was subjugating the world and had to be stopped by someone. So the USA volunteered.
Comparing the number of deaths from tit to tat is a Communist thing. Stalin said it, whole deaths and statistics and tragedy. Strech would know, marxist pig.
However, those kids that died in Iraq and Afganistan died fighting for America. They may have also been fighting for a free college education, or the cash or benefits...But it takes a bit of patriotism to do it in the first place. You can get out of the Armed Forces easier than you think. They will Section 8 you if you want one.
But personally, I believe we're doing the right thing over there. Protecting our interests, our asses, and liberating a country or two while we're at it. That's the reason people like Strech rant and rail. Apparantly, they aren't into protecting our interests or asses.
In closing, because I've been awake for coming up on 48 hours now, don't ask people like Strech for their opinion more than three times. Past that, and you will start to hate them, and wish they would move to Nigeria.
Stupid people make me sad....

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I've never read anything with more truth than that Torak, great post.
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I bet you're only defending the democrats, so your mom can start getting her big welfare stamps again. Since democrats make such things immediately available, and have the audacity to consider it as being ethical, while raping it, and other unjustified amounts from the numbers on my paychecks.
It's the only worthy explaination for your pussified liberal logic.
Who really gives a "flying 180 degree spinning backfuck" how many people died to prevent the corruption of Islamic extremists, terrorism, and Sadam's regime to initiate terror into our country and others.
I guess I am the only one who is not afraid to call you an ignorant motherfucker.
If you let these democratic fucks brainwash you into thinking that, then you can only expect the terrorism threat to increase.
With modern day technology, it's quite easy for a terrorist to do harm to this country.
You're just too damn blind to see that all these Democrats with all their charming smiles, and false promises for economical development, is just the key factor for your vote. They don't give a shit, they will just raise your taxes, and let the terror threat rise, and do what this country is not supposed to do, which is to give in to the demands of terrorists.
You're not looking at it from the right angle stretch, you need to open your fucking eyes, and see what is going on in these countries. They're the ones fighting with each other for oil rights, so they can turn around and sell it back to us with inflated numbers. That's the whole reason why old Bush fought with them in the first place.
Only a pussy puch-over liberal would rather just allow them to invade other countries for their oil, spread their bullshit religion, and invoke terror on those who will not follow in their relgious footsteps, since in the mid-east, not believing in Allah = War, and terrorism.
They try to justify our pursuit for justice, as us trying to steal their oil, or the popular : "We're fighting a holy war."
If you vote for Kerry, you might as well let the French take over our country, because that is exactly what all this dick licking is about. Running away from terror, increasing taxes, giving rights to worthless people who don't deserve to live, and having sex with your secratary in the oval office, WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC PORTION OF THE U.S.

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and then there's the right side...
doing coke lines
consulting jesus in regards to america's fate
hampering stem cell research
and (i can't prove it)
somehow faking it through an ivy league education

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