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and you aren't eh? I'm just not some random douche that talks shit to people he doesn't know. You're the "easy target" pal. You're a nobody

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OK Rahl,
I will be responding, but that is a lot of reading for me to do. If I find info proving any of this shit false you better not give me some bullshit response.

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Ok from the first article first paragraph...maybe this is easier than I thought :0
"When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned their backs on him and walked away. They remembered Mr. Kerry as the antiwar activist who testified before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of being war criminals."
Kerry did not accuse any verterans of warcrimes. He spoke as a representative of the "Winters Soldiers Investigation" which consisted of a group of over 150 honorably discharged and very highly decorated men. These men had met and discussed the war crimes that they all had comitted and sent John Kerry to speak to the Senate in order to make it clear to them what was truly going in in Vietnam. His actual speech makes that very clear.
Beginning of Kerry's Speech
I would simply like to speak in very general terms. I apologize if my statement is general because I received notification yesterday you would hear me and I am afraid because of the injunction I was up most of the night and haven't had a great deal of chance to prepare.
Winter soldier Investigation
I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.
It is impossible to describe to you exactly what did happen in Detroit, the emotions in the room, the feelings of the men who were reliving their experiences in Vietnam, but they did. They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do.
They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
We call this investigation the "Winter Soldier Investigation." The term "Winter Soldier" is a play on words of Thomas Paine in 1776 when he spoke of the Sunshine Patriot and summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough.
We who have come here to Washington have come here because we feel we have to be winter soldiers now. We could come back to this country; we could be quiet; we could hold our silence; we could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this country, the fact that the crimes threaten it, no reds, and not redcoats but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that we have to speak out...
This is the most powerful part of a very impressive speech I believe.
We are also here to ask, and we are here to ask vehemently, where are the leaders of our country? Where is the leadership? We are here to ask where are [secretary of Defense in the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, Robert S.] McNamara, [national security adviser in the Johnson administration, Walt Whitman] Rostow, [national security adviser in the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, McGeorge] Bundy, [deputy secretary of Defense in the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, Roswell L.] Gilpatric and so many others. Where are they now that we, the men whom they sent off to war, have returned? These are commanders who have deserted their troops, and there is no more serious crime in the law of war.
The link to the full speech is here.
http://www.c-span.org/2004vote/jkerrytestimony.asp
On the part about the renewed trade relations and his position against the bill. You are correct those points are true. Sen. Mccain was against them as well.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_john_kerry2.htm

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It's Liberal Democrat logic...It's all bullshit.
But so is hardcore, and I do mean ultra-hardcore, Conservative Republicanism.
There's two extremes in America. Those that are solidly in the middle are scorned (mostly by liberal democrats), or viewed as political saints (like McCain, who's the man). Extremes, extremes, extremes...

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Everyone has such a trust in the media.
If people actually got involved with politics a little further than what the media says, than their opinions would change drastically.
It's worthless to believe this "proof". So many of you don't realize that the media is at a standoff with one side cheering for Bush and the other for Kerry.
Most of these articles are exaggerated and only half true. I could say this for all the Bush hating articles as well. Both sides of the media are pushing as much crap into words as possible in order to grab another blockheaded moron who actually believes the kind of crap they feed him.
The conclusion:
Research your shit a little further than whatever floats around the internet. Get a little more active with politics. You'll at least get a better perspective of what's going on out there.
Btw, this post isn't directed to you Rahl. This post is directed to everyone out there who just reads the same shit that's been floating around.


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Trust what he says.
You are an easy target.


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Hmm. Okay, i'll make it clear:
You came to a game forum run by a player-group guild known as the Lords of Death to receive information on pregnancy.
If that doesn't make an easy target for someone to talk shit, than I do not know what does.


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http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/368rqgqt.asp
This article about Kerry being rich is pretty stupid in my opinion. Good for him I say. We can find plenty of books showing what a privledged life Bush led as well so I won't waste much time on this one. I looked at Kerry's 2003 tax return and he gave away $43,000 and made $147,000. Here is the link http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/Kerry03.pdf.

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I don't know much about venezuelan politics, but you are correct that Kerry came out against Chavez. Here is an article about it.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/news/news_2004_0323b.html
I'm not sure why this is a bad thing. According to this article in the Miami Herald Chavez has ties with Castro.
According to this communist website both Bush and Kerry are equally against Chavez, in fact Bush tried to force a coup against him.
http://www.workers.org/ww/2004/venez0902.php
I thought the US was pro democracy and anti-communist. Maybe you need to research this one a bit more?

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