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The CIA ( albiet dont trust them), M16 - british intellegence - and Russian Intelligence ( putan said it) that their information also said iraq had WMD
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he did LIE
his information at the time told him so- including 2 foreign countries jesus h christ how is that a lie

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we have plans to invade EVERY country
we just dont use em
seriously you think we dont have war plans if WW3 breaks out? the logistics are already worked out
Second off, I dont doubt he was wrong, and to change hte subject a bit since we disagree about WMD
Clearly we did hte right thing removing the dictator, who harbored many terorrists.
I look as it for each Islamic extremist we kill over there- the safer we are.
On a side note you are COMPLETLY wrong he had WMD
He had bioligical weapons ( usedi na a mortar attack on our troops about a month and a half ago) was it not Sarin Gas in them?
That alone violates the agreement at the end of the first gulf war and is reason to invade.
I dunno about you But I consider that a WMD- considering it was used in aterorrsit attacks in Japan subway and killed like 2k ppl did it not?

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finish the sentense. There was evidense he had WMD (you stopped here) rest of report says before the first persian gulf war. then he got rid of them but found other ways to fuck with people. I fucking hate how people read topic sentenses from douche bag columnist in the opinion section and vomit it back up on forum boards.
It's like my old roommate always having an identical opinion to the espn insider...LOL.

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not to get too much in it, it didn't kill 2K people.
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Victims of the gas attack, which killed 12 people and made 5,300 ill

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please stop posting, you are making people with conservative views look bad.
You are like a tree-hugger trying to save concrete telephone poles, you are so far out of wack there is no sense even discussing a McDonalds menu with you.




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Remember sir, the US of A gave Sadam the Gas and weapons during the Contra affair. Far as I know thats aiding and abeiting a terrorist then ? Or was he handy back then to have around ?


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back of canuck u arent involved and it doesnt effect u
We gave support to Germany after WW1 but that doesnt me we helped start WW2.
We gave money to the frencjh in the martial plan but that doesnt mean we like them.
He had Sarin Nerve gas. That is against the U.N. regulations we put him under after the Gulf War. He killed 100s of thousands of people in mass graves. You might be right about the "there are no nukes" but he certainly had banned weapons.
Why do all the liberals forget Somalia? That was Clintons Blunder and we didnt do fucking shit over there. What about Kosovo. We went there to stop genocide - and we fucking waited 10 years to go to Iraq and finish it. Our soldiers died in Kosovo and there wasnt this mass "omfg ban bush!" outcry, you can't say because Clinton didnt lie about our intentions, because neither did Bush. He was given information from 3 foreign intellegence agencies that said they had them, and we found some of them ( Sarin).
Also lets not forget the " Wait for the UN to assist" As it later turns out with the Oil for Food SCANDAL where money was being siphoned off - Kofi Anan's son is allegedly involved in that too. It would never have happened.
And as for " WAR for Oil" our fucking prices havent dropped and as far as I know we havent pumped a gallon for export yet.

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For one, the US supplied almost all of the gas and chemical weapons to the Iraq goverment. In fact the US allowed the Bath Party to take control of the country.
Support to Germany is not the same as weapons to a dictator then telling him those weapons are bad once he defies your orders.
Did the US really go to Iraq to free people ? That might be an after effect but was not the reason. And as stated before there are 10 - 20 other countries with 1000's . 10,000, millions dying for many reason beyond the 1 bad man Sadam. You best go invade every country that is not a democary and has US control if you think that is the way to freedom.



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We went to Kosovo and this kind of outrage wasnt heared.
We went to Somalia and this outrage wasn't heard.
We went to Iraq the first time and this outrage wasnt heard.
And we never supplied him with chemical and/or biological weapons and i urge you to find proof to back that statement up. Munitions- maybe ( more ruskies - judging from the AK-47s we see...).
The US has a history of patroling the world. We dont protect all countries, but often those of strategic intrest ( god knows why we went to kosovo and somalia then...)
Afganastan -- Check
Somalia - Failed
Kosovo - Semi-check
Iraq- Work in Progress
The " No WMD " no longer works- so its strickly upon where we draw the line to help others in other countries.
Im not saying Im for or against the war- but I am saying you cant call bush a liar, and its ludacrious to say we did it for oil
The reason was for WMD and or Killing/Capturing Saddam. Multiple motives, but oil wasnt one of them.
Shit we did a pretty good job with afghanastan didnt we

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How the fuck can you say Afganistan was a success? We ran out the Taliban, that's the only positive. We left that country to rot, we cut fundings/troops/supplies months after the skirmishes there. The country is a shithole. They are pushing 4th world country if one existed.

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