Lords of Death Forums Lords of Death Forums LoD General Discussion VOTE KERRY! *NT*

One I am an atheist. So I could care less if its an XIAN or a MUSLIM trying to tell me or my country how to act or behave. I dislike both.
If we get attacked , it comes, I won't worry about what CAN or will happen. Won't live in fear and have laws passed and TV channels pump color coded fear into my viens thanks.
If you really believe invading Afghanistan [ without getting Bin Laden ] , and then invading Iraq has made the US safer I think your a very silly man. If anything GW Bush, the CIA and all of the US intelligence forces along with the Br its hit a terrorist hornets nest and now they are flying all over stinging shit.
I can be conservative, Muslim , liberal , communist and the Pope and it won't make me safe. No country is safe. The first rule the US broke in its thinking was it would never be attacked. From terrorists, from Japan , from within WTF ever avenue.
Your the world power, you have more nukes then all countries combine, yet you threaten to sanction or attack those who try to even the playing field. Your the bully on the block to the poor nations, the rich kid down the block with the Porsche to the ghetto boys. Your the hated and mistrusted since that is your position on the worked theatre. Yet your reactions to world events are shockingly one way, one sided. KILL EM ALL.
The Hitler comment was place in there to shock. Look at where your country has gone in 5 short years.
Pat Act 1 , 2 coming soon. Way less freedom to travel, to do what you want. New governmental laws are given for spying. Like the Jews a great deal of hate is being put on Arabs for no reason but being from middle east.
If anther attack were to happen, and I hope to hell it doesn't, would the US public in the grip of fear once again sell out there freedoms for more laws , more wars to protect them from something [color:"red"] there is no protection from ? [/color]
Ireland , Congo , Canada , Columbia. name a country that has not been effect by terrorism. Look at the numbers of dead. I do not see those countries invading other countries for freedom, when the group doing the attacking is multi-national and mostly Saudi.
Why cannot the US protect itself from this, because UNTIL the threat is disabled VIA changing the views of the attacking men and women terrorists to see the US as not a threat, when Iraq is gone they have Iran, then Sryia , then and then and then.
Can't win this war with planes and guns. Now you can KILL BIN LADEN , I bet that would work. Make him a god, martyr him and make 10 more mini bin ladens.
So Torak , rather then coming me blind. Tell me, what 2 things would you do, even if the same as Bush ,... but what 2 things DO YOU THINK would stop the violence and protect you ?

1.)Close the borders.
2.)Racially profile.

Fair enough. But what about those of Arab decent that are in the country already. Should each one of them be issued cards of ID or be forced to stay within the US. If you dont like it leave it, so they cannot communiate or plan attacks ?
I think that would work better then going overseas to start a war.

Me

1] 50 billion on Black OPs , so teh US has like 50, 000 highly train super killers that can go inside any country and take out a Leader like Sadam or Bin laden without casuing a war. Once gone they QUIETLY insert a new leader they like via money and power. Never was against oberthrow, just not with destruction like in Iraq that I think casues MORE hate.
2] Hire radical , but not psycho Muslim leaders to converse and speak in countries where the normal US vaules [ western ] are not welcome , so as to counter all the Bin Ladens. Its an info war, win the heads win the hearts I say.
If not Black OP them all !

The first line of defense against any highly dangerous terrorist is a nutritional scientist. Make them eat tastey foods you create in laboratories, so they get fat and can't hide in their tunnels anymore!
Anthropology & Botany, well say no more. Just look at the Delta Force, they're pretty much all botanists.

The point of the post was to show that guy isn't an idiot, he is extremely educated and very respected. Thanks though for the sarcasm.

only here to help, dunno him. It just struck me as amusing. He's probably very well versed. I've worked with a lot of people with multiple phd's and they're pretty bright.
The whole thing has everyone so divided into nearly violently opposing views, it is amazing.
Muj has a point on trying to win them intellectually, and if that doesn't work, exterminate.

What the hell you talking about? I'm sick of every one blaming the US for all the world's problems. Stirring up a hornet's nest? Since the Olympic slaughter in Germany terrorism has been a constant on the world scene with no one doing anything about it. Finally someone has the stones to step up to the plate and take the fight to the terrorist, instead of cowering and paying off terrorists.
Yes we are a world power who is stable, free, and fairly evenhanded. The reason we try to stop other countries from getting nukes is because must of those countries trying to get them or have them are unstable or have unsavory rulers. (N Korea, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Libya, etc.) We built ours as a deterant against the Soviet Union, NOT to threaten other countries. As I see it the US has saved or liberated over a billion people from tyranny. (WWI, WWII, Korea). When we pulled out of Vietnam over a million people were butchered in Cambodia and Vietnam; not a good moment for the US. The world is not static, its very dynamic. Therefore, when we supported the Afghan's it was to stop Soviet expansion. When we supported Iraq it was to prevent Iran from being the most dominant force in the Middle East. Both very good things at the time.
As far as living in fear, having freedoms curtailed, and color coded TV screens you have must get your news from the liberal press. I dont live in fear, I'm actually proud my coutry is doing something about terrorist. I havent had one freedom curtailed, i'm doing the same things i always have, no problems. As far as TV, I barely watch TV and when I do I don't have colors pumping through my veins. The liberals are always claiming the end of the world and its always the US's fault. Get over yourselves!

So invading 2 countries to kill 1 group of people , and a leader named Bin laden was a good move ?

I never thought we needed to close the borders, but i completely agree now. It's way to fucking easy to get into this country and with all these whiney bitches in town it's hard to know who you can count on when shit really goes down. I want people that actually want to live in our country here.... not the assholes that took the free ride in.

How do we close the borders though? Especially the border with canada it is so open.