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#147789 05/18/04 10:56 PM
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I think it's an easier situation because Pearl Harbor was attacked by a nation, not an organization which can hide amongst ordinary people.
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You bring up a good point Volcom.
But, Is the U.S. justified to be doing what it pleases in the middle east?
I certainly believe so. It's too bad the means the U.S. uses to dfind these terrorists. Because if the majority of "ordinary people" of the middle east actually helped the U.S. at all, it would be much easier...they should realize the U.S. isn't going away and U.S. officials should realize the "ordinary people" simply won't cooperate and in some/most cases, continue to aide the "terrorsits".

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Yes but there are major differences. One would be that when Pearl Harbor occured the Whole world was at WAR. Another difference would be that it was a country who attacked us not some rag tag group of individuals. And with Pearl Harbor it was just a matter of time before USA got involved because the WHOLE world around us was at war. When we did enter the war the President wasnt trying to instill Fear into the the people and use it to his advantage like Bush is trying to do now. What I am Saying is that your 2 comparison dont fit. If you dont get it by now then you never will.


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Our Troops are dieing for a stupid reason. They dont even know who to attacking in that peice of shit country. And it doesnt help when people back in the comfort of there own home redicule(sp) and belittle them. If you ask me I think we should just pull out so that more of our troops dont have to die. And if you cant agree with me on that then you must be one of the pencil pushing Ass monkeys sitting behind a desk in an air conditioned office polishing his stripes.


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We've crossed the line and can't just, "back out" as you say. By backing out now, we not only show that were giving up/showing our incompitance, we are paving a path for other terrorists groups and proving that you can attack and kill thousands of innocent Americans and get away with it...
We've gone too far now to turn back...

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I agree with you Sanglant, it is a weak anaolgy on my part.
In other words, what I ment by the comparison of the two is that if you kill a large majority of Americans there will be retribution against those attackers.
Once, again, I admit, the analogy was poor.

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that got Ass loads of troops killed in Vietnam. Now if it was your son,father,daughter,wife I bet you would be singing a different tune.


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The fact that them dying is a war was just part of war where as people dying in america to terrorism was not right. It may not beright, it isnt right but it is part of a war. A new style of war. That is all sir.


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I was under the impression that Iraqi's had been aiding and abetting the terrorists...if I bought into the propaganda the media creates, so be it, but I thought it was confirmed, Iraqis were helping the terrorists and in regards to Saddam, I thought he knew about the attack before it happened, and assisted the terrorsts, or he at least supported the assistance of the terrorst...

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I agree with you in the aspects that like Vietnam only more US soldiers will die if we stay in the middle east...
However, so many people in this discussion believe that you can't compare major wars to a war with a small terrorist group...
So what do you propose?...can you refute the argument that By backing out now, we not only show that were giving up/showing our incompitance, we are paving a path for other terrorists groups and proving that you can attack and kill thousands of innocent Americans and get away with it...

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