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http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/04/bin.laden.compound/index.html?hpt=T1There aren't any of the man himself, but some pictures of the wreckage of one of these new "stealth blackhawks"...pretty sweet. Also there's some photos of a few a of the guys they killed, they're pretty graphic.
I still have a lot of reservations about this whole "story" the government is whipping up. A lot of things aren't adding up to me.
1) How was he so deep within the pakistani border?
2) Who was this compound built for and what is their relation to him?
3) Who are these other random "family" members that lived there with him and have they been questioned by any government officials? U.S. or Pakistani?
4) First they say he was "armed", then they say he was not "armed" but "resisting". Any extremist butthole would have realized what was happening after the helicopters landed and had plenty of time to grab a weapon. We could probably defer that he was unarmed and not resisting. I'm thinking they just went in guns blazing. I'm not questioning the conduct of the SEALS, I would have pulled the trigger too if indeed that is what heppened. But the gov needs to get their shit straight and tell it right. It's not like they dropped out of a tree and ninja'd his ass (in a literal sense anyway). Neighbors saw the helicopters as they landed...the notion that the other 17 people in the compound didn't, highly unlikely.
5) They dump the body 3 hours after making the kill, essentially because they don't want to "anger" muslims. Honestly I can't remember the last time we did anything that didn't. Maintaining forensic evidence is pretty important. Not saying we should mummify him or anything...but 3 hours? Really?
6) DNA Test? This would need to be done in a pretty sterile environment for good results...I didn't think it was possible within 24 hours but apparently it is. Still given the circumstances, it's hard to believe they got the match as fast as they announced it.
7) Last night Fox news reported the operation actually consisted of 79 navy seals. Those two new choppers must have some sick closet spaces. That of course, has now been reverted back to 24. This is probably due to Fox New's own idiocy though, being the worst source of news on the planet.
8) Not releasing photos...this one is pretty simple really. Don't make claims that you've ended the biggest manhunt in world history without showing evidence to back those claims. Regardless of your reasoning. If someone says they have a 600 lbs. lion as their best friend, you don't just take their word for it. Especially when that someone has been telling lies and consistently getting away with it for decades.
I'm not sure what to think right now...I know the military doesn't just fly around and crash new helicopters unless they have a good reason...but I think the administration is doing a pretty good job of providing misinformation, which means they probably have something to hide.
I've been keeping up with all of the information released so far. This is the jist:
1) In 2005, Bush had his CIA director remove Bin Laden as their priority for capture. Around this time, Bin Laden's courier purchased and built their villa on this land. Bin Laden's wife, who was captured in the raid, has said they have been there since 2005. She even says she has never left the second floor of the villa the entire time she has lived there. Never gone to town, never gone outside. Never left the second floor.
2) Bin Laden's Courier purchased and built the villa and the walls and the security systems.
3) His wife and all his handlers\most trusted bodyguards.
4) He was not armed. He did not use a woman as a human shield. He was shot because that is the only decision that SHOULD be made in this type of situation. The last thing any country would want is to put that guy on trial. There would be kidnappings\ransoms setup by al qaeda world wide. Saying to release him or people will die. He would be held up in court for years upon years and politically. His name wouldn't fade away into obscurity. It would be plastered all over the news until the day he put to a hanging. In which he would have died anyway. It would be an absolute political disaster.
5 & 6) Cut hair, place in bag. Insert vial in arm, pull blood, place in bag. Pretty easy to keep tests sterile. Why would you need more than a few hours to do this? Why would you hold onto a body once you've collected its DNA? They probably have plenty of photos and video of the corpse. So why keep it? This keeps the operating quick and clean.
7) Dunno, but those choppers they were flying were Top Secret and heavily modified. They could have been designed to carry any number of troops. From what I heard, because of the silencing technology it wasn't able to get liftoff after dropping off troops and so we had to blow it up so enemies couldn't get any advanced technology off the chopper.
8) If music has taught me anything it is that everyone wants to watch things die while living vicariously from a good safe distance. It doesn't make it right. People were saying Obama didn't have a real birth certificate until 2 weeks ago. So maybe if everyone keeps bugging him for it he will show the picture. Even so, ten-thousand uneducated idiots can claim it's photo shopped because the color of the blood looks fake or the shadow is off 1 degree. Releasing a photo does nothing to satisfy the massive amounts of people who will never be satisfied no matter what you give them. Lets not even go into the thousands of extremists who are willing to blow themselves up because of a cartoon showing Mohammed's face. Imagine Osama's face with a hole in it? How can any good come out of that?
I've heard a bunch of other stuff, but most of it is unverified or hearsay at this point. A few things that are hearsay right now, but might not be in a couple days.
For example, rumors are circulating that Pakistan's Intelligence absolutely knew Osama was in that compound. Neighbors are reporting to news agencies that they often saw Government agents monitoring the compound. A lot of them thought it was a foreign diplomat who lived there because of the massive security and the Pakistani Intelligence surveillance. In 2008 a diplomatic cable (leaked this year by wikileaks) was leaked that talked about the couriers high level affiliation with Osama Bin Laden and that he was of top interest for questioning. The property of the compound was in that couriers name.
