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#245394 02/26/07 01:36 PM
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"How Long Do We Have?
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government."
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."
"From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."
"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years."
"During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage"
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Gore: 19; Bush: 29
Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000; Bush: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million; Bush: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 13.2; Bush: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
Apathy seems to be the greatest danger to our freedom."
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Dont wory you guys can chill with us in canada when the USA explodes.

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canada sounds nice and the chicks are hotter there.

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shit, we taking you with us!

fuck that! stay where you are.


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chicks are hotter there.

LoL? Where do you live Arkansas? The girls I've seen in Canada are skank, California for the win kthx.


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Free health insurance > hot chicks

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Yeah socialized medicine is about as good as no fault insurance. You as a Canadian citizen get to fit the bill for all the non-citizens in your country abusing the system, that's something to be stoked about. This might impact you when you get a job and start paying taxes Moxie. <img src="/~stretch/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Pft i already fork over so much money for school and my car that taxes are just goona be another kick in the balls.

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It's funny how you start by giving a quote from 1787 and end by talking current policy. How can you possibly tie what somebody said over 200 years ago with todays immigration policy?
Those stages don't apply to the united states. If they did, then what the fuck happened to these:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;

6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage"
We haven't followed the timeline up to step 6 accurately, so how can we be in step 7?
If this guy is a genius who can predict the fall of empires 200 years after his time. Then I would say we are still stuck in spiritual faith to great courage. Since the christian\catholic church still runs the majority of this country.

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