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#234164 09/08/06 07:12 PM
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http://www.variety.com/VR1117949675.html
The movie has already gotten more publicity due to the Democrats' reaction to it. If cancelled it's not going to be hard to make Democrats appear as bullying, pro-censorship, and threatening. Bad political move imo. Should have just ignored it.
The movie will probably suck. Football is going to be on during it anyway.

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I don't watch news on the TV.
The movie is claiming to be a docu-drama. I'm fully aware of the FACT that certain decisions by certain people within the movie never happened.

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Did you read what I actually wrote?
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If cancelled it's not going to be hard to make Democrats appear as bullying, pro-censorship, and threatening.

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not even too soon, just not at all. money is to be made though and who am i to tell someone to let us relive to some being the worst times of their life for a little coin *cough pearl harbor titanic ect ect ect ecttttttttttttt*


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ok, does a demand for accuracy appear like censorship to you?

This has come and gone, but I would like to make an important point because I've had some time to think about it. Threatening to strip ABC of its broadcasting license if it didn't change content is suppression of speech.
ABC didn't call it a documentary for a reason. Docu-drama means that some of the movie is fictional: "using actors performing set pieces to take dramatic liberty with events." If they claimed the entire movie was accurate, then I wouldn't be posting.
A demand for accuracy from citizens who threaten to boycott is not suppression of speech though. There is a difference.

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That's because I'm not choosing to ignore the central part of the problem. When you ask your question you fail to include the most important part: the threat.

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Straw-maning or not, Ronnin has an almost salient point. It is extremely distasteful to me, to the point of disgust, that drama and ratings are more important to ABC than accuracy. I believe that any network or production company making a piece about 9/11 owes it to the American public to be as accurate as possible. The truth is dramatic enough - no need to play it up.
Knowing you to be "Left" and considering myself to be more "Central" than either "Left" or "Right", consider these Quotable Rights. You may be very surprised to find that some of your favorites from Fox News have been quoted as saying that the "docu-drama" shouldn't include falsehoods.
There is one problem that I have with all of this. The truth is that subsequent to the first WTC bombing (the one in 1993) and also subsequent to the bombing of embassies in Africa (1998) we (the US) had opportunities to take Osama Bin Laden out. We knew that Al-Qaida and specifically OBL were responsible for those previous attacks and would organize further attacks. Through spy planes and satelite imagery we located OBL and then did not act. We were paralyzed into inaction and that inaction cost us the opportunity to end the life of probably the most dangerous individual on earth.
Why were we paralyzed into inaction? IMO because Clinton had essentially become a castrated President in his last "lame duck" year. The Lewinski scandal and subsequent impeachment efforts had left him with about as much political clout as Carter had at the end of his term.
OBL should have died in 1999. I've had the pleasure of talking with US special forces stationed in the middle east during the time who have told me "we had him, and we didn't get the order to act". To this day, nobody in the Clinton administration has taken any level of responsibility for failing to find and eliminate OBL. The strategy is the same that it always seems to be for the Clinton inner circle when troubled times come - batton down the hatches, deny everything, have people wonder what the fuck is meant by "what is 'is'?".
Thus I can understand why ABC would take a certain artistic liscense in trying to fill in the blanks to try and make a movie about the events preceding 9/11/2001. You have the previous bombings, the intelligence reports showing opportunites, and yet the lack of results - or even of an effort made. Somewhere somebody along the line refused to give the order. Who it was we will never know because of how the Clinton administration does business.
Personally I would like to take a .45 and hold it to Clinton's temple and say "tell the truth mother fucker or I'll blow your brains onto the other side of the room - and that IS what IS". That's about the only fucking way anybody on this planet will ever get the truth out of that slimey piece of shit.
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