Lords of Death Forums Lords of Death Forums LoD General Discussion So much for being the better side...

I think sir, you stated that perfectly, and WAY better then I did. I probably have the habit of posting things that produce a provocitive response. Yours was well thought out and I think correct.

NT

After some careful consideration...I've come to this conclusion. There is no way to argue intelligently with muj. It cannot be done. His opinions are fused with weak rhetoric and liberal propaganda. It's like the flower children came back to try to fuck us in the ear one more time. He does not care what you think, and assualts anyone who thinks differently than him with an obscene amount of weak theories and jargon that he does not understand (I think he copy and pastes most of his posts, anyway). Muj...this is not a personal attack...I just think you're fucking stupid. Not your fault. Your parents might be stupid, or didn't encourage you to learn to read at an early age. It's probably the government's fault for not funding a reading program at your school or something, right?
Sidenote...Uh...Muj: "One, I said an armored vehicle"...Bradley tanks are...tanks. Armored vehicles. I don't want an Iraqi with one. I don't want my neighbor with one. I only want people trained to use them on people who may not or MAY blow me up with them.
Anyway, I don't really give a shit about fighting Iraq. Or any other country. To quote Stalin, the new Socio-Democracy cadets love this guy (that's you, muj. You are almost a Communist. That is not meant to be an insult, but the truth), "the death of one man is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic."
So I'm gonna start putting as much credit in the garbage that comes out of muj's mouth that I do in pan's. Congrats, muj.

Granted, I do not know much about it, just like no one on these forums, and no one in the media, posting their little "secret facts", knows 1/100 as much as the people whose job it is to make the decisions regarding that war. People, especially the media, tend to conviently forget this fact to boost their ratings and their little political angles.
What I guess though, is that America will likely remain in Iraq long enough to ensure that a stable government has been set up and has control, otherwise we'd just be leaving a bud of an organized enemy nation ready to boom up and retaliate later.
Do I think our nation possesses the ability to get this done? yes. Do i think we should? yes. Do I think it will be easy or free of bloodshed? No. Is the concept of fighting offshore to defend America against potential enemies before they hit worth it? Yes. And lastly, do I think that Saddam or members of his regime would have eventually launched a serious attack on the US? Yes.
So that's my humble opinion. You stay till the job's done.
EDIT thanks to Muj whining about WMD's a few posts up:
Where the fuck is Saddam's missing private jet? There are likely still thousands of places WMD's could be hidden, and I frankly, don't give a shit if they are NEVER found, it won't change my opinion on the matter. There was the chance, the possibiltiy, the RISK, of nuclear weapons in the hands of a madman in complete control of his regime with no one to contest his orders and hatred for America.
Now that regime is ended, the madman is in custody, and a new government will be built.
Cry more about it now. I'm going to bed

Great, attack me and not my arugement. What your saying then is, so long as the country of Iraq is unsafe at the level it is right now, which it is since you bombed it, and now try to control it, when something goes wrong for a US tank or soilder if an innocent Iraqi gets in the way , so be it.
Hope they learn to NOT get in the way.
Finn, you may not like what I say, but can you honestly use that an excuse to say blowing up " a tank", sorry you were right "a tank" , and killing people was OK, since it MAY save US lives in the future?

Pan status ? Humm I guess saying you should not blow shit up when people are around it is about as bad as his stuff.

Where you get that from ? And with what ? Skud missles ?
Don't you think Sadam was worried enough about the Kurds in the north, the Israelis and being a Dictator over his own people. O and the 10 years of sanctions the US had placed on him. He had no power, hardly an army left, and I am sure he would have wanted to start a war with the US 10 years after getting his ass handed to him the first time. Yup.
Every small nation with a dictator wants to get the US.

You are a moron if you believe the fallacy of logic: Since I have not seen Saddam's weapons, therefore they do not exist.
How the fuck do you know what he had for sure? Maybe you with your omnipotent knowledge should be king of this country.
Muj's moronic logic at work: "since I have not seen any planets beyond this solar system, therefore there are none"
Do you want me to give some more examples of a 3rd grader's reasoning skills?
Pls re-read my last post as it has been edited.

Yes. I believe that if my life will be saved if someone else has to die, then killing is ok. By your logic, you must be against capital punishment, etc. etc, ad nauseum.
I believe that my life, and the lives of my friends, are more important than a complete stranger's who may, or may not have a bomb aimed at our heads. Yes, I believe that if my girlfriend will sleep better knowing that a serial killer is executed, then yes, killing is ok.
As I stated, that was not a personal attack. I was attacking your...uh...well...
I'll come back and fix this in a minute
EDIT: Ok. Say I have this killer knife. Now say someone who my or may not want to harm me knows about this knife and may or may not want to stab me. If the knife becomes useless to me, then I will destroy the knife when it becomes in danger of falling into the hands of said bad guy. That's common sense. That's why ancient armies would burn their own land when retreating from invaders. Keep them from being able to live off your supplies. If you are moronic enough to believe that there are not any groups who are intent on doing America any sort of harm, then...I don't know.

You're right! That was just me expressing my sympathy for his lack of higher functioning!
Understand now?

Were stuffing flags of the Alqaeda group into the barrel. Were running around minutes before trying to shoot the drivers of the tank and should know better than to hang out around American weapons. I think possibly the next time a roadside bomb goes off the "celebrants" will hang back and stay away from our guys in the vehicle. Besides it is one less propagandist middle eastern reporter who only serve to inflame the islamofacists