Lords of Death Forums Lords of Death Forums LoD General Discussion So much for being the better side...

I don't mean to be sarcastic at all, but as the forces of good shouldn't the US in Iraq be trying to protect the public and not blowing 12 or more people up in public ?
A US vehicle [ probably armored car or hummer ] caught fire. A few mintues later while Arab news channel anchors and the public went to assist or/and see what had happen, the US sent in 2 Apache copters and launched missles so that no " terrorist " could [ and remember it IS ON FIRE ] rummage through it.

Nice , who the fuck cares , only Iraqi's right, lanch away, after all we can make it up for em later on with ALL that freedom we are giving them.
*** PS , more people keep telling me things are getting better over there. Well as of tonight 7 car bombs and 6 other attacks were reported on News in Canada and BBC. That is foward progress. Best make it look like Grenada , big pinic and happy times for the US voters **

It was a Bradley Fighting Vehicle that was blown up. I have a nephew there right now and he commands a platoon of Bradley?s. I know what weapons are on that tank and if it fell into the wrong hands it would jeopardize our troops and would be used on them. It was 100% justified to blow it up. The public needs to just stay away or face the fact that they could be caught in the firefight.

See what you (camel fucker) want is for the mission in Iraq to be a failure. You want failure to try to prove that the Iraq war wasnt worth going over there.
You will bring up collateral damage as the backbone for your arguement, unfortuneately friendly fire or collateral damage has gone on since day one. Freedom cant be handed to a country because there are people, brainwashed like you Muj that want socialism, communism, and the idea of a utopia world. You dont want capitalism and democracy. " If you prefer security over freedom, then you deserve neither! " -Ben Franklin

One I said an armored vehicle.
Two, so long as its not US people getting the fuck blowen out of em its ok ? Cool, right.

Hey Flea , it was :
Those who would choose to sacrafice freedom for security deserve neither, damm I am Canadian and know that.
That quote is better used in context of Americans letting Bush and his Admin throw Pat Act 1 at am during a time of fear then what you try to use it for.

I am not sure if its worth it, but I do know blowing up people who have not been proven evil or bad is FUCKEN bad. Where do you get off saying people should die to protect American lives when your in their country.
Truly the War must be a proud thing then for many. Yup, for hunting terrorists, to wmd to giving freedom to now that upmost greatest thing ... killing Iraqi people in Iraq to make sure someone MAY not get the weapons.
ALmost as good as shooting gooks in the head in villages since they MAY have dug that tunnel 1 mile out.
Also flea since you like quotes , here is one for the war mongers.
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

Dude, first off, do you honestly think the Iraqi's were running over to make sure any possible US soldiers inside or nearby were OK? Do you think that they wanted to run over and wrap them in bandages and make sure they didn't hurt anymore? Or were they going over to quickly claim any weapons/intelligence and return them to us so bad people didn't steal them?
No, they wanted to loot the shit out of the vehicle and there's a good chance at least a couple wanted to capture and torture any disoriented or wounded Americans they might find nearby(not saying there had to be some nearby but likely the Iraqi's didnt know that for sure).
Not everyone, or even close to everyone, in Iraq, are innocent buddies of the US.
Here's a similar scenario,
"A gun store owner just realized he forgot to lock the safe inside his store and he notices a bunch of people that just escaped from jail and are still wearing their orange jumpsuits(but might turn out to be friendly dudes, who knows???), running a bee line right to it.
What do you think he's going to do? Politely ask them in a language they don't even understand to please not take any weapons, and if they must take some weapons, be sure not to use them on him?" Yeah....that's what i would do...

The people HAD not taken any weapons, where did you get that from? They were standing around, hence lets place the arugment to they were looking at the weapons.
How did the store owner know they were criminals ? Were they in white and black striped clothes ?
Were they Brown or Black and spoke Arabic ?
Is it ok then, to say fuck your own laws and rights which you claim to base your freedom on, forget a trial or human rights and just shoot.
If the store owner shot them, he in turn would be the one in iail soon enough. Maybe the people in the store were his old buddies who had shot people before coming back to visit him in black and white clothes with numbers on em.
US Policy Link , very goos , just a link .. nothing to do with retort.
I guess all i can say is, you went to iraq, they DIDNT ask for America to come give them freedom. So while there, I understand a whole lot of evil and fucked up people want to kill you, but its the price you pay when you decide to do something in someone elses yard.

Of note Brittian knows far better what its like to see this kind of violence. Well they did many many many many many years ago. Heres a hint why : Da states was created as a result of popular uprisings and attacks on an established government that was far less oppressive than many current regimes in Africa and Asia.

So all the Iraqi's just ran over then instantly froze like statues with their thumbs up their asses refusing to come any closer to what rightfully didn't belong to them? Not a single one tried to take anything? That's your story?
And yes, considering the entire country of Iraq was at WAR with the US (and i consider that when a country declares war on another, to the vast majority of the other country's population, they are at war with the declarer as well), just a few months ago...
Then yes i believe that I can safely sumize that they have the same status as escaped criminals, they were once dangerous people before(as members of a country at war with the US)....and now.....we can't be sure they're not STILL dangerous people....So my analogy was fitting.
And lastly, you can't go around everywhere pretending everyone is innocent and nice until you personally prove them guilty. Sometimes you have to watch out for yourself and others based off past experience.
What would you do if you were in Vietnam and saw those kids that kept running into american camps with concealed grenades and blowing themselves up killing many of your friends at once. If you saw it happen a couple of times.....watched your friends die to it.....then later saw another vietnamese kid sprinting up to your tent, would you shoot that kid?
And it's the same reaction to it as back then. When those soldiers got home they were blamed and persecuted and exiled for just those kinds of actions, done to protect themselves while being trapped in a very hostile and confusing environment.

** edited here ** What if you replace that above with seeing an American kill your husband or son. See both sides lose in wars like this. Tit for tat. **
Once again you went to their country, to fight a war from your own interests. Well you said the worlds, to stop teh commies. But once again what do you want.
100'000's of soem people goto the USA , don't think there would be farmers and shit attacking them like in Red Dawn ?
Did you SEE the video ? I did, watch as the Arab news anchor was reporting the explosion, then BOOM. Next thing he yells in Arabic is " I am going to die". The news cast stated he did.

Here is a group of people, that lost 3000 American lives 3 years + 1 day ago, and were HORRIFIED. The world was HORRIFIED. Yet now I see excuse after excuse for death, for killing. Were they ANY iraqis on those planes ? Where the hell are the WMD. I heard 12 months ago there was 100% facts. No bad war, very bad mojo for the US if it keeps blowing up innocents when it wants to declare itself the keeper of freedom.
Dictatorships kill people, and state its to protect the goverment and its forces. Not Americans right. So what is the difference then if Americans just don't do it on their own soil.
PS now that is brought up. You like courts and laws ? What about those dudes held without lawyers, or trial in Cuba.

3 years of bad mojo, I hope Bush does not let this continue or let Kerry get in. ANYTHING.

The vehicle was there for over an hour before the choppers came, so there is a good chance it was already looted.
The reporter who died while reporting live on the air was a horrible event for Iraqi's, Americans, everyone.
That alone will cause so many problems. The US is trying to improve it's image in the Mid-East, and things like that just send the local impression of the US down the crapper.
It will cause more people to get into the terror act, and into insurgency. It will cause more terrorism worldwide.
Iraqi's will suffer, they are simply pawns now in a seeming proxy war in their own cities.
Americans will be targetted, as will other nationalities, aid agencies, everyone.
I don't believe that was a "called shot", rather a pilot pulling a trigger on his own.
The tapes that were being shot by the media at that time dispute the official statements by the military that the choppers came under fire. That will cause more distrust.
The pilots will not face an Iraqi court, that will cause more disillusionment and hatred (locals will see it as a double standard).
I see no good coming out of that event at all. And that is bad for everyone.
Tommorow, we'll have already forgotten it and will be worried about rushhour traffic, monday night football and a big hurricane. They'll replay that reporter getting his back blown to shreds while on the air, over and over and over and over....
That just cost more lives, American, Iraqi, anyone.