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This is the MOD to have.
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That program is so filled with bugs, and glitches, I don't ever think it's going to be a finished product. I'll stick with Modplug Tracker for now.
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As far as Im concerned, the new Renoise is the only way to go. Personally been using trackers since 1984 on the amiga (well got my music start doing music for the demo scene). Renoise 1.5 soon to be released will smoke the rest of them.
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Yeah, my friend had a lot of graphics software and music tracking software on his old Amiga we used to play around with in the early 90's. But as far as tracking goes with renoise, I downloaded it about 3 months ago to try it out, and I kept getting various program errors, and glitches, not to mention the pattern views hurt my eyes after a while of following them. The only drawback to using Modplug Tracker compared to renoise, is the various sound effects support that can be used in conjuction with notes on a pattern, like Flanger/Phasers for example. Unless I resample the instrument with that effect, I probably wont get much out of the effect. Renoise's VST plug-ins is a very cool feature. However, I think that any idiot who charges for their VST plug-ins on their site should be casterated, since most VST plugins are usually very simple, and very limited. Another thing that sucks about renoise, is the fact that it has absolutely no support for .Mod .s3m .xm .It formats, yet they call themselves "mod" software. Renoise also has very limited midi keyboard support. Some of it's effects, are more advanced in terms of tracking the effects onto the patterns whereas when you use what I use, the filters are built in, and only customizable in a per channel basis, where I am not able to have complete full control over the filtering effects, unless I may need a special VST plugin to accomplish that. I think Renoise still has a bit of catching up to do. Now that Modplug Tracker is an open source project, it may also be open to modification, and I'm hoping the open source community will able to make the Modplug Tracker a lot better. I've used every single feature in the tracker, and understand every function, effect, and ability, now that I've used it, I understand it's weaknesses and what it lacks. If you havn't tried it yet, Modplug Tracker is an excellent way to track music. It has VST plug-ins, as well as the built in ability to sample, and refilter your own samples. It's also very fast, and compatible with very older systems. It has built-in encoders for MP3 and .Wav. 48khz/16-bit sampling(anything more you need than that is useless.), HF noise reduction, high quality resamp filters.
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Not sure which version you used Pan. Renoise 1.5 is out for registered users (alpha) and should be public in the next few weeks. I'd be sure to demo that version - you may just have better luck. >Renoise's VST plug-ins is a very cool feature. However, I think that any idiot who charges for their VST plug-ins on their site should be casterated, since most VST plugins are usually very simple, and very limited. I have 20 gigabites of VST's of both effects and virtual synths and I couldn?t live without them. VST (emulations) such as the Korg Legacy series, vanguard, Absynth, wave?s line of effects, etc has taken the digital evolution to a new level. Amazing what home studios can produce. >Another thing that sucks about renoise, is the fact that it has absolutely no support for .Mod .s3m .xm .It formats, yet they call themselves "mod" software. I have full support of all these extensions without one hickup. Its great to be able to go all the way back to mods I made in 1984 as well as support for vst integration. Again, I'd wait to try out the new version 1.5. >Renoise also has very limited midi keyboard support. How so? I use Protools, Sonar, Cubase SX / Nuendo, fruityloops, Reason and never felt left out of features. It comes with all the CC# basics (aftertouch, velocity, volume, pans, etc) of most hosts on the market. >Some of it's effects, are more advanced in terms of tracking the effects onto the patterns whereas when you use what I use, the filters are built in, and only customizable in a per channel basis, where I am not able to have complete full control over the filtering effects, unless I may need a special VST plugin to accomplish that. You can use multitimbral vst's and or link effects to specific tracks within renoise itself. That way you arent loading in 5 of the same plugins for 5 tracks. >I think Renoise still has a bit of catching up to do. Now that >Modplug Tracker is an open source project, it may also be open to modification, and I'm hoping the open source community will able to make the Modplug Tracker a lot better. I've used every single feature in the tracker, and understand every function, effect, and ability, now that I've used it, I understand it's weaknesses and what it lacks. Dont hold your breath. While I?m a big fan of modplug software and have used there software for years, I have found little growth off their products. When I made the move from the amiga to the PC using OctaMED, modplug was really the only accurate players at the time. Problem is, not much has changed beside vst support. >If you haven?t tried it yet, Modplug Tracker is an excellent way to track music. It has VST plug-ins, as well as the built in ability to sample, and refilter your own samples. I was into modplug tracker before. Well.. Ultima Online beta (a fitting reference). <img src="/~stretch/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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So are you currently using Renoise for your current compos? Right now I'm trying to look for decent VST plug-ins that are free. I am also trying to learn how to sample some of my own nice acid samples (With a touch of BASS) without trying to use the built-in Modtracker VST plugins for sound effects like Flanger/Phaser effects, without getting too much distortion, or noise. When I tried an older version of Reason, it wouldn't work with my MIDI keyboard. I guess I am unfamiliar with the function of MIDI keyboard channels, or perhaps finding them manually on the computer. Since I've only been using my MIDI keyboard for about 5 months now. The only reason why ModPlug excepts my MIDI I/O is because I am running a Soundblaster AWE64 ISA on my old P166, and the software automatically configured it for me, and it worked instantly, I just had to use and set the regular presets on my 10 year old YAMAHA. Before I was simply using the keyboard shortcuts for notes, which is hard as hell when you're trying to Transponse higher and lower notes, by sound. Basically all I need is some good samples to start with, or better yet, try to sample some of my own samples (Which I've done, with great difficulty.) I've also used Cool Edit Pro to synth. my voice, or some sounds. ModTracker may be old, but it's still better than trying to familiarize myself with all this new stuff, like Reason, and Fruity Loops. Since both of them took up way too much memory when trying to compose and complete something new. I just don't think paying out the ass for music writing software justifies that this isn't anything more than a hobby. My friends seem to think otherwise. I'd have more fun with the software if I had someone to mix/compete mods with.
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